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To: ctdonath2

Does that piece look like it came from

Maybe something like

Why not just remove us conspiracy theorists completely by providing something conclusive to a normal person.

106 posted on 03/13/2002 1:57:01 PM PST by demdesur
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To: demdesur
Why not just remove us conspiracy theorists completely by providing something conclusive to a normal person.

Why don't you go away? Isn't it obvious from the lack of interest from even the most gullible tinfoil hat wearing FReepers, that this nutcase theory isn't making it?

The fact of the matter is that "normal" people don't need convincing. The presence of hundreds of spontaneous eyewitnesses, mountains of evidence, and actual personal stories on these threads trumps whatever psychotic ranting you may manage to excrete onto the screen.

108 posted on 03/13/2002 2:03:59 PM PST by TomB
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To: demdesur
Do you see a Boeing 757 in this picture?

"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage

Likewise, I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could view the Pentagon crash site and ask "where's the plane?"

What I see in that picture is perfectly consistent with the standard theory: the heavily-fueled plane made a belly-flop wheels-up landing right in front of the building, slid into the first floor, exploded, most pieces continued forward thru the first ring, and the center of the structure above the impact area collapsed (with obvious wing-impact damage wider on the first floor where the structural integrity of the floors above managed to stay intact).

All the pictures presented by you and the conspiracy theorists make perfect sense in the standard theory. To fake a crash to that degree & damage would require EXTENSIVE and OBVIOUS preparations.

This is not a movie. Occam's Razor holds.

Does that piece look like it came from [picture of Boeing airliner].

Yes, in fact it does. It is mostly unpainted (unlike the white plane you show next), and painted markings show silver/white/red-bounded markings, not white/blue/white/red/white (as on your poorly chosen example).

Again, the more evidence you show the more convinced I'm right.

Why not just remove us conspiracy theorists completely by providing something conclusive to a normal person.

You have all the photos. They are plainly conclusive. If you refuse to accept them, 'tis not my problem that you are delusional enough to reject plain reality in favor of bizzare ideas.

117 posted on 03/14/2002 6:06:34 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: demdesur
I hate to bring this up again, but you challenged someone to show you proof.

The proof is in the MSNBC footage. Click on start and let the frames run until the final one, then grab the frame indicator with your mouse, dragging it back to the start position.

With your cursor still on the frame indicator, move it back and forth between frames one and two, like an animator would flip cartoon pages.

Above and behind the right post, you will see the tail of the jet, along with a dust trail, that disappears in the second frame.

The second frame, taken perhaps a second? later, shows the beginning of the explosion and the dust trail now goes all the way to the front of the explosion.

The plane skidded along the ground, across the lawn and into the building in that short time, it was moving so fast.

123 posted on 03/14/2002 7:47:53 AM PST by spoiler2
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To: demdesur
Why not just remove us conspiracy theorists completely by providing something conclusive to a normal person.

Okay!

I'd like to try to put an end to your misery; since you've only been here since the end of October of 2001, you probably
do not know that THIS POSTER is Barbara Olson, who died on this plane.

She was a Freeper.....and a Freeper friend.

UNDER NO TERMS WOULD SHE EVER BE PARTY TO THIS

Tell it to people who might believe you.......over at DU.

133 posted on 03/14/2002 9:09:40 AM PST by Howlin
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