[medved]

Yeah... Porsches and Volkswagons are pretty much related to eachother also; in fact early Porsches used a lot of VolksWagon parts and Porsche owners regularly saved money buying parts from VW dealers rather than from Porsche dealers. That does not mean that Porsches evolved from Volkswagaons via a series of lucky accidents; the Porsche was essentially re-engineered from the VW. Likewise, higher and more complex lifeforms appear to show genetic engineering and re-engineering. Evolutionists try to thrive on a salesmanship thing in which they try to insist that all evidence of change is evidence of evolutionary change and anybody who doesn't buy that is some sort of a reactionary bible-thumping fundamentalist. Don't listen to em. The biggest group of anti-evolutionists is probably mathematicians, and not fundamentalist Christians. Evolutionism amounts to an endless series of gross violations of the laws of probability; nobody with brains and talent buys it any longer.

[Virginia-American]

The biggest group of anti-evolutionists is probably mathematicians, and not fundamentalist Christians. Evolutionism amounts to an endless series of gross violations of the laws of probability; nobody with brains and talent buys it any longer.

Name a few of 'em.

And, by the way, why do whales sometimes have a birth defect of legs? It seems most probable to me that it's been in their genome as long as there's been whales. Is there a non-common-descent explanation?

And that *identical* mutation that prevents us and chimps from making vitamin C?