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To: AndrewC
False premise.

Can you go into a bit more detail? For instance, most Christians would claim Jesus Christ was absolutely perfect, indicating that everyone else was, by degrees, falling short of perfection. Saints are higher on the perfection scale than run-of-the-mill folks (being more like Christ and all), while folks like Uncle Joe Stalin would probably fall much farther down on the scale of perfection. I understand the term "perfect" implies an absolute -- however with a definition of perfection ("like God") one should be able to rate where folks fall in the quest for perfection; hence one should be able to claim someone to be "more perfect" than another, implying their relative positions on the perfection scale.

102 posted on 03/11/2002 12:34:50 PM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
For instance, most Christians would claim Jesus Christ was absolutely perfect, indicating that everyone else was, by degrees, falling short of perfection. Saints are higher on the perfection scale than run-of-the-mill folks (being more like Christ and all), while folks like Uncle Joe Stalin would probably fall much farther down on the scale of perfection. I understand the term "perfect" implies an absolute -- however with a definition of perfection ("like God") one should be able to rate where folks fall in the quest for perfection; hence one should be able to claim someone to be "more perfect" than another, implying their relative positions on the perfection scale.

This is like asking which number is closer to infinity. Technically, none of them, since all of the are infinitely far from infinity. You can do comparisons with the numbers themselves, but not with the infinite. You can compare people to other people, but not to perfection. Relative comparisons can be made. But with perfection, you either are or arn't.

-The Hajman-
103 posted on 03/11/2002 12:45:25 PM PST by Hajman
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To: Junior
Can you go into a bit more detail?

Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

105 posted on 03/11/2002 12:51:06 PM PST by AndrewC
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