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To: Polybius
 >  another high civilization, Rome, conquered the savage tribes in Gaul, Hispania and Britannia. They were a rather savage lot. The Celts had a rather nasty habit of collecting human heads.

That's right out of the backwoods of academic nonsense.  It was the Romans who fed Christians to the lions, but that was not savage?  It was the Romans who pitted Gladiators against each other for sport, but that was not savage?  It was the Romans who wrote the history from which you develop this nonesense.  The Celts were no more savage than the times.

>Yet, Rome found a way to integrate the conquered savages into the fabric of the Roman Republic and then the Empire until the time came when the descendants of those savages considered themselves Romans, contributed legionnaires, generals and Emperor's to Rome. The descendants of those savages eventually absorbed and civilized new waves of savages coming in from Germania after the fall of Rome.

What a pile of BS. What musty old book are you clipping that from?  The Celts untimately kicked the Romans a$$, and that was the end of that tyranny.

You don't even know who the Celts are, which is what makes your post so laughable.

89 posted on 03/10/2002 6:44:51 PM PST by DensaMensa
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To: DensaMensa
>You don't even know who the Celts are...

But I know who the Celts are. Click on my Profile if you would like to find out.

91 posted on 03/10/2002 7:32:41 PM PST by LostTribe
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To: DensaMensa
another high civilization, Rome, conquered the savage tribes in Gaul, Hispania and Britannia. They were a rather savage lot. The Celts had a rather nasty habit of collecting human heads.

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That's right out of the backwoods of academic nonsense. It was the Romans who fed Christians to the lions, but that was not savage? It was the Romans who pitted Gladiators against each other for sport, but that was not savage? It was the Romans who wrote the history from which you develop this nonesense. The Celts were no more savage than the times.

What a pile of BS. What musty old book are you clipping that from? The Celts untimately kicked the Romans a$$, and that was the end of that tyranny. You don't even know who the Celts are, which is what makes your post so laughable.

When it comes to ancient history in general and Celtic ancient history in particular, DensaMensa, you seem rather uneducated.

Roman history is one of my hobbies and I have a special interest in the Celts since I am a direct descendant of the Celts of Galicia in Northwest Spain. The reason that I am a blonde and blue-eyed "Hispanic" is that, behind the Cantabrian Mountains, my Celtic ancestors, in their hill-top fortresses, were the last Celts to remain unconquered on the European Continent until the Cantabrian Wars that last from 26 B.C. to 19 B.C. They had to be conquered by Augustus' best General, Agrippa. After that, they were not conquered by the Visigoths, or by the Suevi or by the Moorish invaders of Spain.

If you know of any other Celtic tribe on the Continent that remained unconquered after the Cantabrian War, please enlighten us because historians don't know of any.

If you are referring to the Germanic invasions of the Visigoths, Vandals, Suevi, et al, at the time of the Fall of Rome, they were not Celts.

If you are referring to Hadrian's decision not to complete the conquest of the Picts in Scotland, that hardly qualifies as "kicking the Roman's @ss".

"Savages" is not a Roman term. It is an American idiom that has been used historically in American history to refer to those cultures that are not "civilized". In the 1800's, "Indian savages" was the common expression. In Roman times, the equivalent term would have been the Greek term "Barbarian".

What aspect of ancient Celtic history would you like to debate with me, DensaMensa?

The Urn-field Celts, the Halstatt Celts, the Celtic invasions of Greece and Anatolia, the Celtiberians in central Spain, the Castro culture in northwest Spain, the battle tactics of Vercingetorix or Boadicea, Celtic cultural practices from torques to battle customs to head trophies?

The question, DensaMensa, is do you know who the Celts were and do you know their ancient history? Do you think that "Celts" is merely a synonym for "Irish" or the name of a basketball team? Do you have them confused with the Germans? Do you know anything about ancient history other than what you have seen in Hollywood movies?

127 posted on 03/10/2002 9:12:51 PM PST by Polybius
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