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A Warning for Americans: A Message from a South African
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Posted on 03/10/2002 2:21:18 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are of "Western Culture". Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly your "Western Culture", not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman -- that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability,with freedom and justice for all.

But woe to you if -- or more likely, when -- the rules change. Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game -- violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves -- Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace."Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was peace of the grave for our society.

The Third World is different -- different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe -- once thriving, stable Rhodesia -- is looting the very people who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad ,Great Britan the UN (not least from the U.S.A.), with unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy -- none of which are part of the Third World's history.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission-school proteges. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obsfucate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.

From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a "compassionate" lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.

A television program aired in South Africa showed a town meeting in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Many who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the "compassionate" simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings -- as in Zimbabwe? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.

What will you do when the future nonwhite majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing -- invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murders end up in jail. Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses -- like the need to overcome generations of white racism -- will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friend, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.

What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.

Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.

Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weakness and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Jefferson and Washington, and your Constitution or Bill of Rights. What they want are your possessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: LadyDoc
You think the women would be able to cook and clean? They might get their hands dirty.

Hiring servants was not optional. It was required. If you didn't hire them, bad things would happen to you. I had a friend who moved there and was "given" maids and a groundskeeper whether he wanted them or not.

22 posted on 03/10/2002 4:41:23 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: cascademountaineer
Things occured in Sierra Leone, Burundi and not to mention Rwanda

And the Soviet Union.

23 posted on 03/10/2002 4:42:53 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
OK, I'll fess up. I didn't read the whole article (nor the earlier, linked post), so I am not positive this wasn't mentioned, but the one thing that stands out for me is that the US has a tradition called the second amendment. I think that that makes a small difference. At the moment we are armed. One day we will have the will to use them.
24 posted on 03/10/2002 4:43:08 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
bump for later reading
25 posted on 03/10/2002 4:43:18 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Excellent post! I have felt this way for a long time and have sensed what has happened to South Africa could happen in our country to an extent. Here, people are afraid to "rock the boat" or stand up for what they believe. I work with some of these "panty wastes" and as long as they have it somewhat "cushy" they don't seem to be concerned about anything. A black majority in this country would be one filled with hate -filled "payback" time on their part. There would be no peace and harmony. South African whites were victims before the new government and I get really sickened when I hear of white farmers being murdered and their land taken by these savages. I believe Mandela is a Communist and and a fake.
26 posted on 03/10/2002 4:46:24 AM PST by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: RAY
Yet America is not even recognizing the problem as it grows. The love of "Cheap Foreign Labor" will prove to be a curse.
27 posted on 03/10/2002 4:46:34 AM PST by bimbo
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To: xm177e2
It seems you and LadyDoc are cut from the same cloth....the only information you have about Southern Africa is either what some leftest prof taught you or you bought into ABC CBS and NBC BS!...with all due respect both your facts are pure bunk!
28 posted on 03/10/2002 4:46:49 AM PST by robnoel
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To: AppyPappy
BS....
29 posted on 03/10/2002 4:48:17 AM PST by robnoel
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
This warning is right on the mark. Do not give up what you created to people who are unfit to rule because it is the PC thing. Democracy fails when it succumbs to the tyranny of unfit to rule minorities or majorities. History shows, in many cases how smaller "primitive" cultures have invaded larger "more civilized" cultures who have lost their fighting spirit. But this has led to rebirth and further advances until they too civilized that they lose their fighting spirit in that they do stand for what they originally believed in. However, PC enabled majorities, who were unfit to rule or utilize its rich resources, when rewarded by politicking the fruits of a creative minority , have always destructed, as Africa has shown.
30 posted on 03/10/2002 4:51:44 AM PST by TransOxus
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing -- invasions of private land by the "have-nots;"

In "another generation" my a**. The invasion is already in full force as they come pouring across our southern borders.

31 posted on 03/10/2002 4:53:51 AM PST by varon
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To: bimbo
You are correct.
32 posted on 03/10/2002 4:55:09 AM PST by RAY
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To: robnoel
It seems you and LadyDoc are cut from the same cloth....the only information you have about Southern Africa is either what some leftest prof taught you or you bought into ABC CBS and NBC BS!...with all due respect both your facts are pure bunk!

I lived in Rhodesia for four years. Rhodesia at that time was actually more liberal than South Africa. We heard propaganda all the time like this, lamenting how the West should back South Africa, i.e. meaning white south african monopoly on the country. They wanted us to send troops to defend "Western civilization". I pointed out that if we sent troops, that 30-40% of the US Army are African Americans. If they tried to treat a US soldier like they treated their own Kaffirs, they'd be dead.

33 posted on 03/10/2002 4:56:37 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: AppyPappy
And the Soviet Union.

Indeed. I reccomend some of these links if you have the time, the Chinese famine is also worthy of research.

Soviet Union and approximated numbers killed within. Also, the Chinese Famine. Here as well and also Here.

"Socialist Revolutions succeed only when rivers run red with blood, and blood has to be spilled if what you are aiming for is the perfectibility of the human race."

Greek Communist Ares Velouchiotes.

34 posted on 03/10/2002 4:58:56 AM PST by cascademountaineer
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To: T. P. Pole
Both Rhodesians and South Africans had arms as a matter of fact.....I would go even further and say they were more well armed than Americans....every citizen that served in the military that means all able bodied men 18 years or older where allowed to keep there firearms issued by the military....somewhere in Durban today my FN still resides in a closet....and yes they are full auto....being armed is one thing....shooting to kill is a whole other matter...as the article points out...by nature we are a people who seek peace not war...and in the case of SA and now Zimbabwe we can see the ultimate result of this failed philosphy
35 posted on 03/10/2002 5:05:09 AM PST by robnoel
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To: LadyDoc
I was born and raised in Rhodesia and yes served in the military both in SA and Rhodesia....your take is still BS...and why use the term Kaffir...why not use the N word...it means same thing?
36 posted on 03/10/2002 5:08:31 AM PST by robnoel
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
I think the authors comparisons are very legitimate. When the Dutch emigrated to SA half a millenium ago , they did not conquer anyone, as the Spanish in the new world did. Through their hard work and talents they turned a wilderness into a productive land. The bounty thus created attracted peoples lacking the abilities to create such wealth for themselves. In time it became in the famous words of Bavarian leader F J Strauss "a simple matter of mathematics".
37 posted on 03/10/2002 5:09:06 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: LadyDoc
PS...why don't you visit my web site you may learn something

EAGLESUP

38 posted on 03/10/2002 5:11:10 AM PST by robnoel
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To: xm177e2
SA's racist policies did everything they could to subvert the free market, by taking wealth from blacks and transferring it to whites.

WHAT? The blacks in SA were not wealthy. The whites created their own wealth. Since the end of apartheid, the blacks have been the ones stealing the wealth and land from the whites, and killing them in the process.

Its actually quite funny, yes I do mean funny as opposed to ironic, that the blacks in SA are going to run short of food because they drove out the white farmers. I'm gonna laugh my a$$ off when starvation sets in. I just hope the USA and other countries around the world just leave Africa along and let survival of the fittest set in.

40 posted on 03/10/2002 5:16:43 AM PST by Go Gordon
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