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To: VadeRetro
"There is a third version, which someone much smarter than us posited (Aristotle) - the prime mover, the one who started it all, us Christians call him God. -me-

You've got a scoop if Aristotle was a monotheist, much less a Christian.

This is the sort of irrelevant nonsense which you call a refutation. It does not matter whether Aristotle was a politheist, a monotheist or a raving atheist. His theory presented a third version of the origins of the universe. He called it the prime mover. Whatever his theology might have been, it fits well with the Christian belief that God was the Creator of all things. His philosophy has withstood 2,000 years of philosophic examination.

191 posted on 03/11/2002 5:23:59 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
This is the sort of irrelevant nonsense which you call a refutation....

Don't be too shocked; I looked Repo's "refutation of the entire argument against punc-eek contained in my little 'God hates idiots' post yesterday and all I saw was a one-sentence description of punc-eek for dummies. Figures...

192 posted on 03/11/2002 5:29:56 PM PST by medved
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To: gore3000
Whatever his [Aristotle's] theology might have been, it fits well with the Christian belief that God was the Creator of all things. His philosophy has withstood 2,000 years of philosophic examination.

Many of Aristotle's ideas were deemed to be verging on subversive at the time. He argued strongly that there was a divine being, what he described as a Prime Mover, who was responsible for the unity and purposefulness of nature. In Aristotle's view, God was perfect, and therefore the aspiration of all things in the world was to perfection, since all beings desired to share such perfection.But, he added that there were many Prime Movers in the Universe, and that the Prime Mover was not very suitable for religious purposes.
FROM HERE.
You'd better stay away from Aristotle.
196 posted on 03/11/2002 6:19:07 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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