FBI identifies agent in shooting (of innocent man in Maryland)

Baltimore Sun ^ | March 9, 2002 | Gail Gibson, Michael James and Laura Barnhardt

[Lion's Cub]

"We're confident when all the facts come out that [they'll show] he acted in accordance with training and FBI policy regarding the use of force,"

I don't doubt it one bit. They've had years of practice at hiding the facts they want hidden and inventing the ones they make public.

[csvset]

You're right. I forgot the sarcasm tag.

[StACase]

"and he can wait his days out in some private security company."Post #16

No, he can rot in prison serving a sentence for second degree murder.

[Gore_ War_ Vet]

The experiance and training of this agent are indications of the whole problem. These were not rouge agents, these were "good agents" whose SOP following FBI policy allowed them to identify, interdict and assualt 2 citizens whose only crime was to buy Slurpies.

What if it had been the robber? Was this agent a judge?

What if the victim's had been armed? Were they less innocent?

It's time for this to stop! The FBI should be required to follow the BATF protocol:
Follow the suspects to a dwelling unit shoot it up and burn it to the ground.

[Billy_bob_bob]

The FBI has become a hazard, a menace and a disgrace. It wasn't DOT files that Hitlerly grabbed up to silence her opposition. This incident is the cherry on top of the cupcake. The FBI is out of control and accountable to no one.

The time has come to de-fund the FBI and scatter it to the winds.

[Gore_ War_ Vet]

Ping!

[Gore_ War_ Vet]

The time has come to de-fund the FBI and scatter it to the winds.

Then who will protect us from the communists, terrorists and traitors.

[Free the USA]

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[Billy_bob_bob]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the FBI started out with the idea of assisting states with the problem of apprehending criminals who fled across state lines? Said problem resulting from poor communications between different states and jurisdictions? We do live in an internet era nowadays. Every PD in the country is connected to the internet and to nationwide police databases. Less able PD's can be assisted by their state police when it is warranted.

My contention is that the FBI has become more of a problem than the problem it was originally intended to fix. It is worse than ineffective or corrupt, it is simply obsolete.

[Gore_ War_ Vet]

I understand you view, but you are not seeing the problem from the governments point of view:

We must immediatly order the removal of all Slurpy machines from all 7-11's to protect our youth.
This could be accompished by implimenting a Slurpy machine buy back program paying up to $1.37 billion per spigot for each machine. The FBI may be able to be trained to do this and could be renamed the Federal Bureau of Slurpies.

This is one idea but I fear it may just create more Federal BS.

[sport]

I have personally known many Officers of the Law who went into LE after military service.

Men who served in combat in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam.

None that I knew behaved in the manner of the individual that shot the young man.

The more I go over what has been reported, I now believe that this man decided sometime before that he was going to kill the suspect when he caught him.
That he did not kill the man had more to do with the Grace of God than his lack of trying.

[TC Rider]

And I would LOVE to know that NC freepers are in a full frontal telephone and e-mail bombardment of Sen Edwards, for his partisan attack on Judge Pickering.

His office always tells me that he hasn't made up his mind yet. But he goes to California and brags about trashing his reputation. I always ask for a letter, but haven't seen one yet.

[YaYa123]

Tony Snow interviewed Orrin Hatch today, all about the Pickering nomination. Edwards will be on Tony's show tomorrow, and I suspect the questioning will be Tony giving Edwards the chance to respond to what Hatch said today.

I hope Tony has Brit for back up..that Edwards is slicker than snot.

[cynicom]

I hope this young man does ten or twenty years for this affair. I do not care what protocol calls for, shooting in the face tells me the shooter should never have been allowed to hold a gun. I notice they are laying out all of his military record. Thats all fine but we are not the enemy here, send the shooter to prison for ten years, let the Federal Cowboys know there is a law to be reckoned with.

[cynicom]

steve....

I think there will be much mischief done in the name of "home security" in years to come. Sounds too much like the gestapo for me.

[cynicom]

YaYa ..Sent my email to Edwards.. He reminds me so much of Carter, another loser.

[cynicom]

csv...The law is always making examples of people. Make an example of this trigger happy jerk, at least ten years. The other Federal Cowboys will take notice and ride a little smaller in the saddle.

[cynicom]

No one will protect us. Hanssen sat in FBI HEADQUARTERS for 15 long years selling us down the drain. Time to disband the organization and start over.

[Cap'n Crunch]

I'm of the opinion that it should be mandatory that FBI agents come from regular police forces after they have several years experience.

I know some FBI agents that were regular street cops, and in my opinion they make good agents. I've seen them shake their heads at some of the things that these inexperienced agents do.

There's a difference in being an investigator and going out on the street and chasing criminals. I'm not saying that street cops don't make mistakes because they do. I'm saying that the less experience one has the more likely they will be to do something like this.

And, while I'm running my mouth (via my fingers) I have seen way too many times when the FBI tries to hard to get the "Glory" and not hard enough to lower themselves and work with the regular cops.

[watcher1]

The guy will walk
Anyone who thinks justice will be served is being naive