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Report: Military Plans Nuke Hits on 7 Countries
New York Daily News ^ | 3/09/02 | LEO STANDORA

Posted on 03/09/2002 1:07:48 AM PST by kattracks

The White House has ordered the Pentagon to prepare plans for using nuclear weapons against at least seven countries and to build smaller nuclear bombs for certain battlefield situations, according to a published report today.

Tops on the nuclear hit list are China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria, according to a classified Pentagon report obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

"This is dynamite," Joseph Cirincione, a nuclear arms expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, told the newspaper. "I can imagine what these countries are going to be saying at the UN."

The Times said the secret report, given to Congress on Jan. 8, says the nuclear weapons could be used against targets able to withstand nuclear attack; in retaliation for attack with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, or "in the event of surprising military developments."

The report says the Pentagon should be prepared to use nuclear weapons in an Arab-Israeli conflict, in a war between China and Taiwan or in an attack by North Korea on the south, and possibly in an attack by Iraq on Israel or another neighbor.

The call for a limited-range arsenal was seen as an important deterrent against enemies who doubt the U.S. would use larger weapons in certain situations because of the widespread death and destruction they would cause.

The U.S. has long had a detailed plan for nuclear attack on Russia, but the new Nuclear Posture Review apparently marks the first time an official list of potential targets has been compiled.

The report acknowledges Russia is no longer officially an "enemy," but cites concern about the huge Russian arsenal of about 6,000 deployed warheads and some 10,000 smaller "theater" weapons, The Times said.

Pentagon spokesman Richard McGraw declined comment because, he said, the report is classified.

Nuclear analysts predicted to the newspaper that the report would draw strong reaction, but some insisted the Pentagon must be ready — especially after Sept. 11 — for all contingencies.

One nuclear expert, John Isaacs, president of the Council for a Livable World, said, "This is very, very dangerous talk.... Dr. Strangelove is clearly still alive in the Pentagon."

U.S. policy generally has been to consider the use of nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states only if they are allied with nuclear powers.




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To: kattracks
I am at peace because my President is protecting me.

We know our conspicuous enemies sneak up and play dirty. Now they can sweat for their trouble.

221 posted on 03/09/2002 4:04:13 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: kattracks
Frankly, the report is old news. It's nothing that we in the FR community haven't known or at least suspected. The press confuses, as usual, PLANNING for contingencies with ACTUALLY looking for opportunities to implement such planning. When it comes to the prospect of Nuclear Weapons, I assure you, the wish to implement ANY such planning isn't there. And thankfully, we hope it never is, barring a NBC attack upon this country.
222 posted on 03/09/2002 4:16:23 PM PST by Braak
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To: Steve_Seattle
To create problems for Bush.

I completely agree with you. They ( the RATS ) have tried everything they can to hurt W over the last year and a half and have failed. America can see these people for what they are, Liberals are anti military, anti middle class, and anti America. They want only to promote their socialist agenda and destroy this great land. They don't care that Americas safety hangs in the balance, because they don't love this country. Yes Alan, I said it, and I mean it!!

223 posted on 03/09/2002 4:26:46 PM PST by ditto h
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To: StriperSniper
It was a leak! It was not meant for release.

I know, I know. I began my argument from the POV that someone thought this was purposely leaked and was good strategy.

We did not threaten them, we prepared a defense plan.

I have no problem with a defense plan or contingency plan. I see no reason to name names and now that this has been released...I think I've put forth that argument five or six times already.

Yes, they [Libya} have, but they have also constructed hardened underground sites that a nuke might be needed to penetrate. Do you trust Kadafi(sp?)?

Might be needed, whatever. Cynic that I am, I trust very few people who hold power. However, Kaddafi has *seemed* sincere lately, why punish a "good deed"?

So? What are they going to do? Attack? If they do, they would have anyway.

I don't know how you can say this is necessarily so.

Whoever leaked it should be tried and hung in public for TREASON.

LOL!!! You don't honestly think anyone will be held accountable for this do you????

224 posted on 03/09/2002 5:16:09 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Buckeroo
In what way does making contingency war plans interfere with ones freedom?
225 posted on 03/09/2002 5:23:41 PM PST by DB
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To: DB
"In what way does making contingency war plans interfere with ones freedom?" -- DB

Assumimg that war against other nations is an honest perspective, nothing. But we don't see this, in America. We see a continuing and expanding war that is now global.

I am confident that you are of the finest with family background and education. We have a problem in America. Our government no longer protects us. We have a government today that protects *BIG_BUSINESS*; this should have never happened as it violates the underscore of our Constitution.

It has gone on for years, too. Over 100 years since the Spanish-American War in 1898 which turned it all to the crap that we see, today.

We are a "sinking-ship" today. The world is about to consume us because we, in America, have no manners.

226 posted on 03/09/2002 5:48:10 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Guenevere
I was trying to figure which counties would get it first......(terrible, I know)

...and I hesitate to post which ones came to mind :^)

Lets see...

Marin, Palm Beach, Westchester?

We'll try to stay serene and calm,
when Alabama gets the bomb.

227 posted on 03/09/2002 5:56:22 PM PST by P8riot
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To: Paul Ross,Chapita,ChaseR,Ronneil,Uncle Bill,Wallaby,flamefront,ntrulock,Fred Mertz,Plummz,zog,F16
Paul Ross,I absolutely agree with your concerns in your reply #220.

And until the US replenishes its depleted inventory of cruise missiles (factory in California is supposedly producing enough for a late Spring assault on Iraq according to Michael Reagan on his radio program), the US has few long range cruise missile "arrows" with which to afflict Iraq. But will enough cruise missiles be produced soon enough for prolonged military actions and/or self defense against other necessary targets in addition to Iraq? And will these cruise missiles have tactical nukes available (like once was the case) to be put on them if need be?

When HW Bush announced in a speech to the nation on September 27, 1991 that he was unilaterally disarming the US of its tactical nukes, he also had our neutron bomb components destroyed at a time when others allege Bush gave the neutron bomb to China (Sam Cohen father of neutron bomb).

Tactical nukes ordered dismantled by Bush included nukes for cruise missiles and artillery shells. In this speech HW Bush declared his actions were part of his "New Age" vision-his exact words (not sure if they refer to the New Age Religion).

I have a copy of HWBush's speech and the list of US nukes he had destroyed- I requested it and it came to me directly from the White House. THe speech has been reposted on FR late last year several times.

228 posted on 03/09/2002 6:10:35 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: JohnHuang2,kattracks
Please see replies #220 and #228. Thanks.
229 posted on 03/09/2002 6:11:25 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: LiberteeBell
Kaddafi has *seemed* sincere lately, why punish a "good deed"?

I look at it as just keeping him on his toes and reminding him that Pres. Bush is in the Reagan mold, not clntoon.

So? What are they going to do? Attack? If they do, they would have anyway.
I don't know how you can say this is necessarily so.

Not necessarily, but I would think high probability.

LOL!!! You don't honestly think anyone will be held accountable for this do you????

Cynicism? Let's not get into a pissing contest, we will have to get out the waders and trout season has not even opened yet!;-) Accountability? Hey I can dream, can't I?

P.S.-
I'm listening to Batchelor and Alexander on WABC 770 AM (they stream) and their first guest was Frank Gaffney from the Center For Security Policy who said the leak sounded like it came from a guy named Bill Larkin. I did not catch who he was (unlike that running joke around here I really was in the shower), but I'm going to try to find out who he is. Gaffney said he was a well known leaker from the past in these kind of matters.

230 posted on 03/09/2002 7:09:09 PM PST by StriperSniper
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To: kattracks
Jeez I hope this isnt just propaganda to pressure the damn Axis of Evil. I think we need to act on this plan. Maybe exclude Russia for the time being.
231 posted on 03/09/2002 7:15:28 PM PST by fiftymegaton
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To: 2sheep; Prodigal Daughter; Light Speed; Thinkin' Gal
I have a feeling that 9/11 was a much bigger event then we first thought!
Let me check my list...


Zechariah 6


Vision of the Four Chariots


The Four Chariots
1 Then I turned and raised my eyes and looked, and behold, four chariots were coming from between two mountains, and the mountains were mountains of bronze. 2With the first chariot were red horses, with the second chariot black horses, 3with the third chariot white horses, and with the fourth chariot dappled horses--strong steeds. 4Then I answered and said to the angel who talked with me, "What are these, my lord?"
5And the angel answered and said to me, "These are four spirits of heaven, who go out from their station before the Lord of all the earth. 6The one with the black horses is going to the north country, the white are going after them, and the dappled are going toward the south country." 7Then the strong steeds went out, eager to go, that they might walk to and fro throughout the earth. And He said, "Go, walk to and fro throughout the earth." So they walked to and fro throughout the earth. 8And He called to me, and spoke to me, saying, "See, those who go toward the north country have given rest to My Spirit in the north country."


The Command to Crown Joshua
9 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying: 10"Receive the gift from the captives--from Heldai, Tobijah, and Jedaiah, who have come from Babylon--and go the same day and enter the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah. 11Take the silver and gold, make an elaborate crown, and set it on the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest. 12Then speak to him, saying, "Thus says the LORD of hosts, saying:


        "Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH!
        From His place He shall branch out,
        And He shall build the temple of the LORD;
13Yes, He shall build the temple of the LORD.
        He shall bear the glory,
        And shall sit and rule on His throne;
        So He shall be a priest on His throne,
        And the counsel of peace shall be between them both."'


14"Now the elaborate crown shall be for a memorial in the temple of the LORD for Helem, Tobijah, Jedaiah, and Hen the son of Zephaniah. 15Even those from afar shall come and build the temple of the LORD. Then you shall know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you. And this shall come to pass if you diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God."


List

4 chariots, (horsemen?)
Two mountains (bronze = man made)
Joshua crowned, Kohen Gadol (Yeshua)
Note: VAV Number 6
Compare, Parsha: PEKUDEI EXODUS 38:21-40:38

233 posted on 03/09/2002 7:53:38 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: Grampa Dave
David Horsey is a Seattle leftist cartoonist. Most of his cartoon need a barf alert, but every once in a while he has a good one.
234 posted on 03/09/2002 8:38:35 PM PST by cantbebought
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To: Beenliedto
However, we are not at war.... Only Congress can declare war.... Or so the Constitution days...

OK, so why hasn't Congress declared war?

235 posted on 03/09/2002 10:09:25 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot
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To: StriperSniper
Cynicism? Let's not get into a pissing contest, we will have to get out the waders and trout season has not even opened yet!;-)

Cynical? Moi??? Naaaaah.

Accountability? Hey I can dream, can't I?

Well, I'm dreaming too but the elite don't get held accountable for much, if anything these days.

238 posted on 03/10/2002 3:08:19 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: P8riot
LOL......Marin & Palm Beach.....
...you win the car, the trip, and everything behind Door One!.....:^)

...but we gotta cut some slack for Westchester.......There's a well known FReeper who lives in Westchester.

239 posted on 03/10/2002 4:38:15 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Beenliedto
The LA times sapparently published a story based on statements out of Congress. If Congress Critters make statements, the LA Times or anyone else can and should publish... that's news....

And congresspersons shouldn't be leaking classified information. They should be arrested and/or impeached. Publishing such a story causes difficulty in diplomatic relations, and the LA Times knows that. They didn't care, because their boy lost in 2000 and they want Bush's presidency fraught with as much peril as possible. They (both Congress's Left-wing and their willing accomplice, LA Times) apparently don't care how many soldiers die, how many missions fail, and how many enemies they might create... as long as their anti-Bush agenda is promoted. When one acts in such a way to help American troops become endangered, that's sedition and treason.

Do you have no problem, however, with the summary way in which the administration is deporting itself?

How is a report that is asking the Pentagon to prepare for the worst-case scenario a bad thing? I'd be willing to bet that every administration has published similar reports since JFK. (Ever seen the movie "Wargames" with a teen-age Matthew Broderick? Such preparation is not a new idea.)

240 posted on 03/10/2002 5:26:18 AM PST by Teacher317
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