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Palm Beach, Fla., Bishop Resigns After Admitting Sexual Misconduct
TBO.com ^ | 3/8/02 | Ken Thomas

Posted on 03/08/2002 2:41:46 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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Should the Catholic church allow marriage of the priests...?
1 posted on 03/08/2002 2:41:46 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
At least this guy has the integrity to realize that "taking full responsiblity" doesn't mean you keep your position after admitting the grave wrongs you have committed.

If only Cardinal Law had some integrity.

2 posted on 03/08/2002 2:45:21 PM PST by 07055
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Cor. 7

"They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth." 1 Tim. 4

3 posted on 03/08/2002 2:53:04 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Married men can be abusers too. Single men can have affairs with adults.

I think your question doesn't address the problem.

4 posted on 03/08/2002 2:53:19 PM PST by D-fendr
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Should the Catholic church allow marriage of the priests...?

Marriage won't solve the basic problem with pedophilia, it will only give the perp more cover. There have probably been just as many, if not more instances of abuse among married clergy all over the country as among Catholic priests, but they are not publicized near as much. The Catholic Church is a HUGE target because it is so outspoken about sexual sin; folks looking to beat up on the Church latch on to scandals like this to point out hypocrisy. But the Church is made up of humans who are sinful like all humans. Most priests are kind men trying to be holy to lead their parishoners to holiness. All of those wonderful men are smeared when something like this happens.

I hope the Bishops will now be more careful about who they elect for ordination; they have many years in seminaries to weed these perverts out, they just haven't done it in the past because the liberal nuns and priests running the Seminaries were looking for 'progressives' to be priests. Well, they got what they asked for, but I don't think it is exactly what they expected!

5 posted on 03/08/2002 2:56:23 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Marriage of priests does not help. I'm Episcopalian, and we have this happening in our churches.

These are homosexual predators who have come to the churches to prey on the young. They are not Christians!

Being a Priest, a Bishop or a Cardinal has been a free pass to be a predator!

6 posted on 03/08/2002 2:56:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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Should the Catholic church allow marriage of the priests...?

The problem is not celibacy. Rather, the problem is men making vows and then breaking them.

Married men in large numbers do the same thing. It's called adultery.

7 posted on 03/08/2002 3:00:30 PM PST by choirboy
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Oh, boo hoo, they're picking on us, we're the only ones standing for morality so we're a target, Catholic bashing yadayadaya.You're just enabling perverts by defending them. I stand with Christ; tie the millstone around their necks and cast them into the sea.
End of problem
8 posted on 03/08/2002 3:02:55 PM PST by nofriendofbills
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"I was as wrong as I can be in taking that approach with him and I am sorry," he said. "There was nothing in the relationship that was anything other than touches."

Yeah, it wasn't sodomy--we were just touching each other in a very specific way.

9 posted on 03/08/2002 3:04:05 PM PST by jrherreid
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The problem is not celibacy.

How many people do you think the Catholic church loses because they are unable to maintain that vow?

10 posted on 03/08/2002 3:06:10 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; sinkspur
Yes. They should be allowed to marry. This stuff with the pedophile priests is just nauseating to me.
11 posted on 03/08/2002 3:07:01 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: SuziQ
I am sick and tired of you defending gay and pedophile priests. We all know that your brother is a priest and that you have an agenda here. You are now outnumbered on this board, and the general consensus of late is that those who defend these wretched men are just as bad as they are.
12 posted on 03/08/2002 3:08:10 PM PST by Palladin
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Should the Catholic church allow marriage of the priests...?

Yes, it's a complete no-brainer. It would instantly and dramatically increase the pool of normal men available for the priesthood.

13 posted on 03/08/2002 3:09:25 PM PST by Argus
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don't see how married priests would help solve this problem since the perpetrators are homosexuals, unless you mean marriage "Vermont-style".
14 posted on 03/08/2002 3:19:42 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
How many people do you think the Catholic church loses because they are unable to maintain that vow?

I assume you mean how many priests leave the priesthood for that reason. I don't know. I've never seen any statistics on the matter. A lot of priests left the priesthood in the past 30 or so years, some because they wanted to marry.

I've read a number of articles by some who left and married and who regretted doing so. They regretted the marriage, but moreso leaving the priesthood.

15 posted on 03/08/2002 3:21:31 PM PST by choirboy
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To: Argus
How do explain all the Protestant clergy who are guilty of pedophilia and sexual misconduct since they aren't bound by a vow of celibacy? The dissolution of celibacy argument is a specious one at best.
16 posted on 03/08/2002 3:22:04 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Should the Catholic church allow marriage of the priests...?

To each other?

I believe that Cardinal Law must have considerable personal baggage in this scandal. What other reason on earth could be behind is half truths, waffling, and ultimately obstruction of justice.

The fact that Massachusetts Attorney General Tom Riley is now running the investigation kinda says it all-as the old saying goes when you want to hide something real good just stick it in one of Riley's law books.....he'll never look there.

Law should be compelled to testify or to plead the Fifth. If the state won't get the job done....federal charges should be brought.

It is just getting interesting in some of the civil cases.

18 posted on 03/08/2002 3:36:01 PM PST by ninonitti
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To: grlfrnd;all
If you think the Church is in trouble now just wait til we get married priests. Everyone needs to pray, there is an attack on the Church by things supernatural. Satan is aided and abetted by his faithful emissaries on earth and they are supported by so many who are so taken with this nice,fuzzy feeling we all get when we "luv" just about everything from ice cream to each other with the same passion that we can't see straight. If we can take our own selves out of things most would find so much of what we feel and think is just plain stupid.Remember that those who brought us abortion said it was just for those special cases. Others fought that and predicted where it would lead. The fighters were correct.

Married priests will not lessen pedophilia,todays Arizona teacher's arrest was a married man.Mark my words,and I don't mean to be strident but I am very concerned,nothing will improve with married priests. Things will get worse, the homosexual priests will continue to recruit teenagers while claiming they should be allowed to marry their same sex lovers and then they will have to support same sex marriages and adoption of children. The money problems will increase as families of married clerics will have to be supported, then we can probably add divorce and alimony and adultery.

The "progressives"who have sought to destroy the Church since the French Revolution are waiting with bated breath, salivating for this to play out. Do not be deceived,you wouldn't believe how many ex-priests now married are living out here in the sunshine,ready to jump back in. By the way,might your byfriend be a priest?

19 posted on 03/08/2002 3:45:56 PM PST by saradippity
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To: D-fendr
Married men can be abusers too. Single men can have affairs with adults.

So I've heard tell.

But it's not dogma. I've heard the priests sometimes preach against it, during their idle moments.

Toward freedom, and sense. Not too much of either, thanks, my heart is weak. You read the record and weep.

On a very serious note: FOR THE CHILDREN!

P.S.: Seriously.

P.P.S.: Seriously.

20 posted on 03/08/2002 3:54:56 PM PST by alcuin
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