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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I don't know how Bush's poll numbers will do over the long term or whether he will be elected to a second term; however I would not jump to the conclusion that just because we are "mad as hell and not going to take it anymore", it does not mean that the vast majority of the voting public is. These people are still asleep at the switch.

Also, GHWB lost in part due to breaking his own word on "no new taxes"; GWB, on the other hand, never made any promise not to grant amnesty to illegals. On the contrary, he gave plenty of clear signals what his true intentions were on this matter.

Finally, GWB does not need to fear another Perot, nor do the Dems appear to have any candidate waiting in the wings who is anywhere near as charismatic as W.J. Clinton (Hillary will melt like the proverbial Wicked Witch of the West, if exposed to a national electorate, IMO), and, also, GWB can ride the "war on terrorism" indefinitely, whereas GHWB ended the Gulf War far too quickly for any effect of it to least until the 1992 election. "Perpetual war for perpetual peace" means that the President can milk his war powers perpetually, rather than for limited duration.

I'm not saying that GWB won't suffer for his amnesty stance, I'm just saying he has more positives going for him than we give him credit for.

2,128 posted on 03/12/2002 4:34:18 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
You are right. I'll bet most Americans have no clue that there was even a vote today...probably in the 95%+ range or higher. There was essentially no mention of it on the news, and Bush 'n friends can sneak it by before anyone can raise a real stink.
2,134 posted on 03/12/2002 4:37:34 PM PST by Guynethia
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
GWB, on the other hand, never made any promise not to grant amnesty to illegals

On the contrary, one of the pre-election things I heard from him is that he told LULAC and La Raza that "there won't be any amnesties, but we will push for some sort of guest worker program" and "Oh, I'll pertect the borders".

Read my lips, Jorge: No new amnesties!

He lied just like his father did.

2,138 posted on 03/12/2002 4:38:43 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Read this Poll on Immigration
2,143 posted on 03/12/2002 4:40:45 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
More than anything, people vote their wallet. Immigration as a subject by itself is not a big issue unless you're in a state being dramatically affected by them. But the economic consequences over the next three years of legalizing possibly millions of poor uneducated illegal immigrants could have enough impact on the economy that it tips the scales against Bush. The demos aren't going to hit him on immigration by itself, he's going to be hammered on that issue by the people needs most - the conservative base. Many of us just might stay home the next two elections.
2,145 posted on 03/12/2002 4:42:05 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Not with us against him, I fully plan on the next two years berating him to anyone who will listen, he lost 40 votes today just in my family alone. We will vote third party. I know a few people that know a few people, people who have to live everyday with this invasion and don't like it one little bit.
2,163 posted on 03/12/2002 4:56:07 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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