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To: Scratch shooter
I tend to agree with you that the end is in sight.

Yes, our industrial base has fled; yes our deficits are horrendous and projected to grow even larger. I already believe we are bankrupt from welfare, prisons, medical care, and education not only for illegal immigrants, but legal immigrants, and many actual citizens. What's the national debt standing at....it is in TRILLIONS as far as the eye can see!

Middle class--yes, it must be destroyed...is there any other country in this hemisphere, or the world really, that has a middle class such as ours? I think not--at least not size nor wealth/education.

A number of years ago, I read a book by an elderly southern gentleman who had been in the financial services in NY during his working life. This book discussed America prior to the Civil War/War of Northern Agression. One thing he said which has stuck with me was that the South had a mindset of not liking loans or debt, whereas the banking empires were in New York and they loved loaning money and debt. Prior to the outbreak of the war, it was realized that not much more debt would be obtained from existing customers and that by freeing slaves, there could be an infusion of new 'blood' into the system....new customers, if you will....customers needed to consume those "dollars made out of thin air".

Fast forward to todays' world and we see in America that there is record debt....within the last couple of years people were even using their credit cards to buy more stock!! But cc debt has been stretched to the limits for several years....look at the record numbers of bankruptcies....loan defaults....farm foreclosures as well as other foreclosures.... Does it not seem as though there needs to be a new 'infusion' of blood into the financial system(s)? Ever wonder why the first thing that is done in these countries that we 'save' is to control their financial systems.....take a look at the Dayton Accords to see what I mean....watch in Afghanistan....we've already seen the mickey mouse Rambouillet Accord that Milosevic refused to sign onto.

And about that sovereignty thingy....a little search here or at Operation America chapter regarding trade relations with China will reveal part of Newt Gingrich's testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee in 1994 wherein he said we would be giving up a large chunk of our sovereignty to the WTO; he also said we could get out, but that we wouldn't because we wouldn't want to be known as the country that brought the trade system to a halt!!

So these bastards know exactly what they are doing....and they don't care.....the almighty $$$$$ is more important than the sovereignty of this Nation. Bringing more non-patriotic personages into this country will merely further dilute the concept of sovereignty--take a look at the European Union---they're trying mightily to delete the various national borders....and each generation will have less and less loyalty.

Alas, it seems more important to pick the lesser of two evils as the one that will get Amerika to her knees than to take a principled stand....our publik educashun sistem did its werk gud!

BTW....that traitors list covers both sides of the aisle!

1,553 posted on 03/11/2002 9:53:39 AM PST by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
So these bastards know exactly what they are doing....and they don't care.....the almighty $$$$$ is more important than the sovereignty of this Nation. Bringing more non-patriotic personages into this country will merely further dilute the concept of sovereignty--take a look at the European Union

Good post. And you are so correct.

1,555 posted on 03/11/2002 10:05:15 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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