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To: bimbo
If the proposal goes through, Conservatives won't matter anymore ... elections will be overrun by so many "new, illegal" Democrats.

This is what makes this whole scheme now being pushed by Republicans so difficult to understand. Bush just barely won in 2000, what does he and Congress think is going to happen when you add potentially millions more democrats to the voting rolls?

Not only are they making a mockery of the rule of the law, but they are committing political suicide. Talk about killing two birds with one stone.

1,019 posted on 03/10/2002 5:15:58 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It seems that the powers that be are bound and determined to destroy the conservative movement.
1,022 posted on 03/10/2002 5:18:11 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: Reaganwuzthebest;GeorgefrmBr00klynPark
You have raised a number of good questions on other replies but this is perhaps, "The Rub"-The issue of illegal immigration & its dillution of the Conservative voice & vote:

To this end the Constitution is subrogated, controveerted & ignored. We are seriously burdened, economically, with their support, dilluted at the polls & in Churches, schools & all institutions. Both political parties seem to work for this openly.

This issue surely evolves from the nebulous & sometimes, not so nebulous concept of NWO. Even if one choose to ignore the internantional political order, the International & Multi-national businesses are obvious & must be served. We are the economic engine that drives the socialist failures around the globe & if they deem cheaper labor to be our best source of oxygen & energy, then it is SO.

It also stems from the evolution of both parties into, virtually, ONE party. They no are no longer compelled to hide this, or, perhaps, have concluded that pursuit of mutual goals no longer compels the older, carefully crafted seperation of party identities.

This is also a reflection of the personality of at least Bush himself, for whom some fanciful political theorists have devised a peculiar new term-communitarian or some such. This is a goofy new nether-world where we forget the strictures of the Constitution & "We all get along by caring & sharing". Kinda like we all sign up for Habitiat for Humanity, & do literally, everything for our fellow man. Caring & sharing out to infinity. One erudite, eloquent, & highly degreed poster on FR was suitably offended when I dismissed this label & he went to great pains to explain this wonderful new class of political thought. Some of them, regretably, believe it. I really don't blame the poster, an academician or writer or what-ever. Like the dim-witted occupants of colleges of education, no one would give them any attention ( or funding ) if they failed to re-invent the theories of teaching ( & here, political science ) every so often.

I simply see the nice, down-to-earth fellow from an upper class, Deep West Texas 'Oil Patch' family, who has had fifty years to shape his stage presence-first for & amoung his parents & siblings, thence his fellow residents of Midland, thence the larger theater of the state, & now the world. He does want to please almost all & will do what ever he can to gain approval. Not so very bad a goal, but his model is his Father, former legislator & CIA operative ( his oil biz was involved with them ), former Ambassador to the Chi-Com's, former Ambassador to the UN, former Director of the CIA, former Vice President, former President. All the roles hinge on power & the power was ever increasing, & we are the happy new followers of a man who grew up learning how to aquire & use power. Not a bad model, & certainly not a bad President, but it all revolves around ever increasing power.

CONTROL & TAXATION are the only ends of modern government. Criminal aliens are just one of an infinite number of tools to achieve the ends. So is the new war & we must deal with vast numbers of evil people, all around the world. The war will grow, for good reason, & only serve the same ends. Every crisis is new opportunity for the government.

1,037 posted on 03/10/2002 6:17:13 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
This is what makes this whole scheme now being pushed by Republicans so difficult to understand. Bush just barely won in 2000, what does he and Congress think is going to happen when you add potentially millions more democrats to the voting rolls?

It just brings to the light of day the fact that, for the most part, the dialoge in the halls of congress is nothing but theatrics for the ignorant masses. the Craps and Pubs are one and the same working for world power for the world elite. Of course one has to have enough intelligence to look from the proper angle to see it, so they (the elite power lovers) are still in no danger.

1,180 posted on 03/10/2002 12:52:17 PM PST by GaConfed
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