Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill

Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

[TEXICAN II]

The numbers will create many converts to the issue-if they are disseminated far & wide.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Your constant insinuating that Ronald Reagan, unlike the current occupant of the White House, believed whoever could sneak, crawl, or get smuggled in past the border should be welcomed with open arms is getting tiresome. A quote from Ronald Reagan:

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, Reagan said, would "regain control of our borders and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people, American citizenship."

And here's the source of the quote.

Please, in the future, don't compare Reagan to Bush. There isn't any. He understood the concept of borders and citizenship.

[Twodees]

You're absolutely right that there's no comparison between W and Reagan. Reagan was a man who had had a career that he built himself, and had reared children and provided for them to adulthood himself before he ever got into politics.

W is a boy in his 50s who will never grow up because he doesn't have to. He has never worked a day in his life and has never done anything to amount to a hill of beans outside political office. He's a daddy's boy and will never be a man. People who try to compare him to Reagan make me sick.

[angkor]

BUSH PLEDGED TO NO AMNESTY AS A CANDIDATE
HE LIED.
OUT THE DOOR IN 2004

How unfortunate. GWB and my Republican Rep just tossed my votes into the trash can. I suppose they haven't discovered that it'll take two new votes to replace the one I'm going to cast against them next election.

[censorshipThwarted]

. As regards the illegal aliens, the only reason they are here is because the business investor class such as all Bush's buddies are making a killing off them--at the expense of working citizens whose wages are lowered and whose medical benefits are wiped out. We built this country, but the jobs it provides us are stolen by theives, and those who benefit from that theft--the business investor class, and their buddies in Congress and the White House. I say we try before a court of law every CongressTraitor for the death of all those citizens who died from cancer because employers stopped offering medical care b/c illegal aliens are competing in OUR HOUSE for the benefits of citizenship that rightfully belong to us.... They are taking our rights and benefits of ownership, and without permission, and they, and those who aid and abet should be tried and punished. How many AMerican citizens have died of some medical condition because they no longer have medical benefits because employers no longer offer medical benefits because illegal aliens do that work without benefits. Those dead people who died needlessly were my fellow citizens, and I have a social contract with them, and they with me. I demand justice for their deaths, and I demand that every congresstraitor be tried for their deaths. We have a country run by rule of law here in America, and they are breaking those laws and causing great damage to citizens protected by those laws. I demand justice! Furthermore, I am well familiar with the Mexican (having grown up right on the Rio Grande), and I can tell you taht the Mexican culture is a rather unattractive culture to me, and I do not like the mass importation of that culture into my country.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

We here Bush talk ad nauseam about how "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande", or that if a business needs an employer, we should hook them up with an employee no matter where they're from or how they got here. There is no value or meaning of citizenship to Bush. He's not a conservative, but an open borders Libertarian Paul Gigot can be proud of. Anything for the almighty dollar, even at the expense of the country and the people living in it.

Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like if A-gore had won. If he proposed this, the hypocrytical repubs would have been all over him for even thinking it. Still I don't want a demo president. Conservatives instead should try and get a grassroots movement going to challenge Bush in the primary. We must have our voices heard on this. Who knows, maybe even a true patriot who'll put country before commerce will emerge as the Reform Party candidate. Anything is better than what we're getting now.

[MissAmericanPie]

You just think you are mad now, if he goes to the U.N. meeting in Mexico and allows the United Nations to tax US citizens, you and I both will be screaming for impeachment.

[Barnacle]

BUMPASAURUS!

Thanks Singer. You said it well.

[RnMomof7]

My Rep. Republican Jack Quinn was the deciding vote.Jack Quinn sold out America in exchange for political power.I am joining an effort to defeat all those that voted for it including Jack..(He may have to become the Democrat he really is)

[abigail2]

Thanks for all the information and big bump...

[Joe Hadenuf]

You just think you are mad now, if he goes to the U.N. meeting in Mexico and allows the United Nations to tax US citizens, you and I both will be screaming for impeachment.

But they wont call it a tax. It will be called somthing else.

Just like last night on this forum. I was told that this is not amnesty, but rather 245i. And it was so-called conservative Republicans that were attempting to minimize this. LOL!

The amnesty supporters have been working overtime inventing euphemisms to distract attention from the real nature of the amensty, like:

legalization," "normalization," "regularization," "earned adjustment," and even "phased-in access to earned regularization." LOL! This is very predictable.

[MissAmericanPie]

I believe it will be called something else, and the wonks will defend it, and claim it really isn't a tax per'se, it's not a blanket tax, just a usage on currency exchange, big difference don't you know.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Please, in the future, don't even compare Bush to FDR.

There you go. One gets the impression some here would like to make conservatives feel guilty for not wanting to take in or accept every poor "migrant" who only wants to work hard and seek a better life. There are billions of them in the world. We have to have some controls. We already take in almost a million legally every year.

There's no excuse for politicians rewarding lawbreakers anymore. It was done as a once only deal in 1986 as compromise legislation in order to get better control of the borders. But Ronald Reagan did not believe in open borders, and in fact was against illegal immigration.

[PRND21]

Tell you what: you ping JR and ask him to state whether or not it was you who complained about that post and I'll up the bet to $100 and make it between you and me. You realize that you're betting as well, don't you?

Honesty is great, try it.

Easy $100 for the FR fund, Mr. Robinson.
Did I hit abuse on #1765?

[PRND21]

and I can tell you taht the Mexican culture is a rather unattractive culture to me, and I do not like the mass importation of that culture into my country.

Carol-Hu?
Have a great first day.

[PRND21]

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, Reagan said, would "regain control of our borders and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people, American citizenship."

He also said,

"Give me your tired your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I'm sure Mr. Reagan wasn't talking about this:

There's a right way, and a wrong way to come to the US. Reagan only referred to immigrating legally.

[PRND21]

Reagan only referred to immigrating legally.

That quote doesn't mention legality.
How many were involved in Reagan's blanket amnesty?
And why was it ok for him but not the current President?

Funny picture, but it's been around much longer than you.