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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

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To: Joe Hadenuf
As you all know:
- Future amnesty bills will also be passed and signed, no matter
which party controls the White House and Congress.
- Illegal immigration will continue, at least for quite a while.
- The Hispanic population here is growing fast and will continue
to do so into the foreseeable future.
- More and more politicians will speak both English and Spanish,
as GW Bush does.
- Mass deportations will not happen and to keep people in an
illegal/criminal status -- who are here to stay -- is not a good
idea economically, socially, politically, or otherwise.
- We collectively allowed this situation to happen and we have to
live with the consequences until we can turn it into an asset.
It will take time.

2,341 posted on 03/12/2002 7:07:38 PM PST by Consort
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To: seamole
My Rep. Randy Forbes voted no. His staff is tiny because he just got in during a special election, but the fellow I talked to this morning was nervous. I think they had been getting some pretty strongly worded calls for awhile on this particular vote.
2,342 posted on 03/12/2002 7:10:41 PM PST by Twodees
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To: WRhine
Just a BIT off topic...I was watching Alan Keyes, and he posted a scan of the visa upgrades for the terrorists who flew the jets into the World Trade Center. I couldn't make out the last name of the signature validating the document, but the first was QUITE clear...'Manuel'. Can you imagine the uproar if the person who approved these upgrades turned out to be an illegal alien? Not likely, but still...



2,343 posted on 03/12/2002 7:11:19 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: VA Advogado
IT's odd that when Dane shows up, you're shortly behind. Just admit it, you're Dane. You're not fooling anyone. Like I said, everytime he is on, there you are. When he is off, you're nowhere to be around. Coincidence? Na, I don't think so.
2,344 posted on 03/12/2002 7:11:49 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: VA Advogado
Whoops, I forgot about what I said about ignoring you, though it was directed towards your Dane alias.
2,345 posted on 03/12/2002 7:12:21 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: A CA Guy
Don't go off the deep end and vote democrat just to spite them. That's too much like saying, "I'll show you, I'll kill me".

Anyway, voting democrat is every bit as dumb as voting republican. I've been saying that for 20 years. ;-)

2,346 posted on 03/12/2002 7:15:04 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Dane
Reagan would not be congratulating Bush. After he left office, Reagan admitted that granting amnesty was a mistake. I'm not sure if it was Michael Reagan who admitted this.
2,347 posted on 03/12/2002 7:18:11 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: A CA Guy
As far as the next couple of elections - Payback is a b!tch!

And the next election is just 8 months away. I can't wait to not show up.

2,348 posted on 03/12/2002 7:22:53 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
And the next election is just 8 months away. I can't wait to not show up.

Same here.

2,349 posted on 03/12/2002 7:26:29 PM PST by healey22
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To: Dane
No, your mental capability is lacking again. Here is what is going on. The majority of ILLEGAL aliens are going to the metropolitan areas. In these metropolitan areas, duh, they take jobs in construction, landscaping, restaurants, etc. However, they're not only in the metropolitan areas. They are also in small cities. In these towns, they are working in chicken processing plants, textile mills, etc. In the country, these illegals are in farming work, etc.

Now, being that you're disconnected from reality, you haven't seemed to understand the fact that poverty is also growing exponentionally in the same general areas that it is also booming. That is, the housing industry is exploding because new neighborhoods are needed for those displaced Americans who desire and Americanized neighborhood. While there's a short-term economic gain, it's really a near-sighted gain, for while the economy is growing a little, more Americans are being forced out of work, social service use is going up exponentionally in comparison to the growth in population, the quality of life is going down, and we're creating a situation that will only get many times worse for the future. This includes all those negative effects; economic, social, cultural, Constitutional, environmental, etc.

Yet, you're too disconnected to concentrate on the long-term.

In terms of the small towns, you're right, these places may not be growing the fastest economically, but they're also not adding that much poverty. Furthermore, these areas are much well-knit, not comprised of special interest groups attempting to war factions between everyone. Lastly, they don't have the negative effects that destroy the opportunity of them surviving into the future, at least culturally and socially. However, as the problems grow larger in those areas which have experienced the invasion, they will later, more than likely, be transported to the few remaining Americanized areas.

Again, you don't seem to get it.

2,351 posted on 03/12/2002 7:31:27 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Old Hickory
Globalism is shifting its costs to the middle-class in bite-sized nuggets of crud. I am ashamed of the US congress but sadly not shocked. It's a dome of whores to the DC globalist money machine. These bastards have tinkered with nation-states since Napoleon.

Well Said Old Hickory.

2,353 posted on 03/12/2002 7:34:25 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Oh, I'm gonna show up. With a sign that says "don't vote for the turncoats!". Or BETTER.

I just watched the O'Reilly segment. O'Reilly was flabbergasted. He got Tancredo to admit that Bush is the guy who was behind this (it was taped before the vote).

They had some idiot who looked and talked like a cartoon socialist, Engel (like, Friedrich Engels?) of New York, in there saying how compaaaasionate Bush was being.

THAT'S WHOSE SIDE BUSH IS ON, AND THE SIDE THAT HE JUST SHOVED UP THE CONSERVATIVE'S COLLECTIVE BUTT.

There is no way Bush is going to be able to sugarcoat this. The one vote margin SHOWS that all they could do was pass it under enormous pressure, and try to contain the damage.

Bush just stepped in a big one. I was REALLY happy to see O'Reilly spend a good part of the segment on this and give Tancredo a chance to tell the truth to the millions of FACTOR viewers.

Out there in dim-land, little troubling bulbs are going off over a lot of people's heads.

2,354 posted on 03/12/2002 7:34:31 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Twodees
Oh, I'm sure that it was him who hit the abuse button, for he responded to my message by copying a bit of it. Apparently, he was the only one who saw it. Then, he hit the abuse button. Insane.
2,355 posted on 03/12/2002 7:35:40 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: spodefly
AMEN!!
2,356 posted on 03/12/2002 7:36:47 PM PST by christine
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To: Dane
Get some help over your mental lapse in not being able to understand the rule of law. Secondly, you're supporting a policy that will hurt Americans. You see, Americans are also looking for a good life, or do we not matter? Answer the question?

I'll give you a chance to answer why you support Illegal Immigration. You have yet to even say the word Illegal Immigration or Alien. After all your posts, I would have thought that you would have tried to use those words at least once, but you haven't. What gives? Oh, you don't want to draw attention to the fact that you have no point, and you want to critize, defame, and twist the situation so that it fits your degenerated view of the world. That's it.

2,357 posted on 03/12/2002 7:40:03 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Jimer
Jimer, it's called principle, not party. Secondly, allowing an amnesty will be the end of America, anyway, in due time.

Mass deportations is popular amongst the public. It is not popular amongst the elite. Thus, that is why the elite only provides the pro-illegal side of the argument. The politicians see this and say, "Hey, let's vote for an amnesty, for tightening border control may garner scrutiny".

It's of the establishment, by the establishment, and for the establishment. What is it that Savage calls it, "The Government-Media Complex".

2,358 posted on 03/12/2002 7:44:05 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Vallandigham; All
Actually, the vote WAS recorded by name. PRS posted the votes here: Bush's gift to Fox (Amnesty for illegals) Passes House .

Thank God my critter voted against it. We'll see how he does the rest of his term (his first), but we don't have to throw him out yet... :)

2,359 posted on 03/12/2002 7:46:48 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: sarcasm
[does anyone think that any conservative Republican could do so today?]

As we say in the South, "That's something nobody's ever gonna know". The GOP absolutely refuses to allow another conservative to run for president under their banner ever again. Wobbly and Dole couldn't do it, neither could Tio Jorge though he did squeak by a winner. 'Course none of those boys are conservatives.

2,360 posted on 03/12/2002 7:51:24 PM PST by Twodees
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