"The Checkpoint: New Fiction from the War on Domestic Terrorism"

www.sit-rep.com ^ | March 6, 2002 | Travis McGee

[Eustace]

Thanks.

[Travis McGee]

Yeah, I got a good education about "real" thermal detection there. Most of what I thought I knew was wrong.

The rest of snipercountry.com is outstanding also.

[Eustace]

Believing what I believe, I think there will be a sun storm that will knock their electronics out.

When the time comes, of course.

WE will win........that's why they're paranoid.

[Eustace]

From one remnant to another, I'm glad you are still here.

They can keep guns out and people in, but they can't keep God from His people, and that scares them........

[Travis McGee]

They have a lot of reasons to be paranoid.

So do we.

"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you".

[Eustace]

To me paranoia includes fear.

They are the ones with "everything to lose" at least according to their values.

So I don't see myself as paranoid, because I'm not scared. The way I see it I/We have everything to gain.

I'm sure when the SHTF, I'll be as scared as anyone, and when dying time comes I may not want to go, but I'm not afraid of them.

There's something God says about not fearing the ones that can only kill our bodies.

Granted they have some terrible ways of doing that, but I trust the Big Guy to take care of me.

So "Whatever will be, will be......."

Peace

[harpseal]

Great find on the limitations of thermal imaging. I am wondering what some of those disposable hand warmers scattered about would do to thermal imaging. They go to about 140 degrees F and are relatively inexpensive. Lower tech in an urban envirornment might include such things as dumpster fires and the ever popular 55 gal drum with garbage burning.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[Travis McGee]

As long as the point heat sources are behind or under something to diffuse them I would think they would be effective.

One of the strong points of FLIR is to tell if a structure is inhabited or empty. In my book there is an ambush of the STU at a remote trailer hidden in the boonies. Lights and a kerosene heater and a radio left on a talk station inside make it appear inhabited, cell phones belonging to targeted individuals serve as a beacon to draw in the STU. The trailer is command detonated when the STU team does its 0200 no knock attack.

Poohbah gave me the idea of turning lemons into lemonade by using their cell phone tracking capability against them, like a salt lick and corn for deer.

[Poohbah]

Thanks for the credit bumpity-bump-CLANG-bump (jest a few potholes on this information superhighway thingie).

[Dick Bachert]

Thanks and dittos.

[Travis McGee]

Credit where credit is due.

[Squantos]

And some of us don't even need a caliber to do what they trained us to do ......... as packrat stated to me in an earlier post this AM ............

"They couldn't get a clue if they were doused in clue musk and dancing the clue mating dance in a field full of horny clues"

As to FLIR evasion,......if ya want to mask your signature it's gonna be very hard if not impossible in my experience. Only place I have ever seen it defeated was when a rebreather and one atmosphere was available with large body of water to evade in.........you know that trick but how many have such available. Now if you want to confuse your signature make sure your E&E route includes a place like a sporting event/concert/parade/rally or mall where your signature is lost among others.

If the day ever arrives that I must enforce the constitutional oath I took when I entered military service, god help the SoB's who force such upon themselves from me and others that understood and honor such commitments .......

Stay Safe !

[harpseal]

Confusion may be enough as to a realatively large body of water. We do have the Atlantic in the back of the house of course it is salt march with a river running through but not that far to open water and a whole lot of cofusion above.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[packrat01]

?Brad, I?m sorry I didn?t tell you, but I?ve got a pistol with me.?

Made is sound like ?Brad, I?m sorry I didn?t tell you, but I?ve got the clap.?

Oh, that's not so bad; it's treatable. Good thing you don't have herpes, though.

If you're FReeping, you ain't writing...

[packrat01]

Thanks for the ping. I'd have missed it otherwise.

Get lost in a herd of cattle?

[Travis McGee]

No doubt at all: a city provides better camouflage and masking than the open country or even the deep woods with today's FLIR, NOD and ELINT tech. So not only will they catch a fugitive faster in the open, they will be freer to go hot on him with no witnesses around.

Anybody that hasn't read "Killing Pablo" by Mark Bowden really needs to. Escobar hid out for several years in the city of Medellin with Delta, the CIA and the entire Colombian military and police after him.

[Travis McGee]

If you're FReeping, you ain't writing...

Duly chastized.

[Squantos]

Only hot cows we have here in Panhandle of Texas are served with a side of taters ! But hey it might work :o)

Stay Safe !

[Squantos]

Blackhawk down Bowden ??? Kewl ....I'll buy in AM , Thanks.......Hey Harpseal, what was the moniker on that out of print Irish read you suggested I try and find ?

Stay Safe ya'll !!

[Travis McGee]

Yeah, Blackhawk Down author Bowden wrote Killing Pablo.

I also recommend "The Dirty War" by Martin Dillon about the war between the IRA and the SAS (and other Brit units).