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I'll edit your part out next time I post this snippit.

I will say for the record that you DID have a lot more to say than this. I did not want to clog the thread with a long excerpt of our old debate. In the follow on, neither of us impressed the other with our arguments.

I know what you think about it, I'd like to show Dan Day for his view. BTW, you have sometimes gotten a bit uncivilized in our debates over the years, but compared to Dan the Man, you're David Niven.

At any rate, his tone in itself demonstrates one of my core beliefs- that it matters what you believe on this issue.

It matters whether in your heart of hearts you think we are cosmic accidents or images of God. It effects how kind or nasty one is. In that sense, even if evolution is true, believing it is true produces a coarser, meaner society, while believing the opposite produces a kinder, more respectful, and loving society. So even if its true (It's not), its self-defeating. Evolution has then evolved creatures who should not believe in evolution!

It matters whether in your heart of hearts you think we are cosmic accidents or images of God. It effects how kind or nasty one is. In that sense, even if evolution is true, believing it is true produces a coarser, meaner society, while believing the opposite produces a kinder, more respectful, and loving society.

If belief in God produced moral behavior, Islam would be paradise on earth. If belief in Jesus produced moral behavior the atrocities of the middle ages would not have happened.