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To: Southack
Funny how Creationists accept, what do they call it, micro-evolution. Especially since micro-evolution is the same thing as Evolution. (btw, "micro-evolution" is a term made up by people who don't know what they are talking about, ie. idiots)

Funny how DNA changes daily. Chemical, biological and radiological stressors have a funny way of changing DNA.

Funny how one species of finch became 36 species of finch in less than 10000 years.

Funny how one species of honey sucker became 26 species of honey sucker, in less than 12000 years.

As far as the math goes its like anything else, garbage in, garbage out.

You can't tell a flat-earther that it is round. Message ends.

45 posted on 03/05/2002 1:47:09 PM PST by The Shootist
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To: The Shootist
"Funny how one species of finch became 36." Was that by government scientists so they could claim each of the 36 were "endangered"?
58 posted on 03/05/2002 2:05:47 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: The Shootist
"You can't tell a flat-earther that it is round. Message ends. "

Seen on a bulletin board at Arizona State University back in the 60's-

The monthly meeting of the Flat Earth Society will present the movie "Around the World in 80 Days"

64 posted on 03/05/2002 2:17:24 PM PST by lawdude
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To: The Shootist
Funny how one species of finch became 36 species of finch in less than 10000 years.

And it's funny how none out of 26 species of finch ever became a dog, a cat, a monkey (which might or might not know how to type), or a human. The theory of evolution is an extrapolation of empirically witnessed "micro-evolution" (to borrow a term introduced elsewhere in this thread). Nowhere is there evidence of a mutation from one genus to another, much less from one kingdom, phylum, class, order, or family to another.

Don't cite spurious "evidence" of micro-evolution to support macro-evolutionary theory. (And, yes, there is a difference between the two. Macro evolution requires that an organism transforms from one species into an unrelated species - not that a finch may develop specialized characteristics and therefore be recognized as a "new" species.)

111 posted on 03/05/2002 3:00:55 PM PST by MortMan
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To: The Shootist
Funny how one species of finch became 36 species of finch in less than 10000 years

Funny how in just a few hundred years, we have seen the evolution of Teacup Poodles and Great Danes. If these animals were developed apart from the intervention of man we would class them as seperate species. Certainly fossil remains of animals that diferent would be different species.

The endangered species known as the Eastern Red Wolf was recently determined to be a hybrid of the plentiful coyote and the plentiful grey wolf.

Apparently all these animals are interfertile!!. They are ALL DOGS!! Why are some labled seperate species and some are not? The answer is that there is no answer. Species divisions are frequently arbitrary. Logically, these are all breeds of dogs, some wild , some domestic.

There is considerable genetic variability in most living things. On Galapogos, Darwin was able to trace the decent of the Finches there from a common parent population. Some were very different than others. Various behavioral issues made for quasi reproductive isolation in some cases. (There are a lot of birds that still jump over the fences though)

Those finches aren't less similar than the extremes you see in domesticated dogs. Yet they are defined as species because someone wanted prestige or wanted to bolster their world view. They could easily be defined as breeds or races.

Darwin acknowledged the arbitraryness of species definitions when he said "A species is whatever a compentant naturalist says it is."

The list you are trumpeting is the result of arbitrary lines in the sand being drawn by individuals who had a vested interest in evolution explaining all of life.

For me, the biblical concept of kind is more scientific than the very nebulous and inconsistant use of species classification.

169 posted on 03/05/2002 4:47:53 PM PST by UnChained
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To: The Shootist
Funny how Creationists accept, what do they call it, micro-evolution. Especially since micro-evolution is the same thing as Evolution.

Christians accept that God made species able to survive in the world. They do not accept the atheist belief that species, the world, the universe was created by random chance.

They have a point though, a very good point. Has anyone seen a bunch of trees build a house? Purposeful complexity does not arise at random.

Micro-evolution is not the same as evolution. Finches with large beaks and finches with small beaks are still finches, they are not monkeys, they are not even parrots, they are finches. People of white skin are still humans, people of black and yellow skin are still humans. Evolutionists would like us to believe that new more advanced, more complex species arise through micro-evolution, but this is not the case. All that micro-evolution does is change some small characteristic of the species, it does not create new more complex functions which is what is needed for new more complex species to have arisen which is what the theory of evolution asserts.

207 posted on 03/05/2002 8:19:22 PM PST by gore3000
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To: The Shootist
Funny how DNA changes daily.
That throws DNA fingerprinting out the window...
If DNA changes daily what good is it?
437 posted on 12/08/2002 7:37:08 AM PST by philman_36
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To: The Shootist
Year2000Babies
The O.J. Simpson trial made DNA, among other things, prime cocktail party conversation. Lawyers on both sides rushed to show us colorful charts and thick documents explaining that every living creature has its own unique, unalterable DNA.
439 posted on 12/08/2002 7:53:20 AM PST by philman_36
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To: The Shootist
You can deny god all you want, but science cannot save you from dying. You will know the truth then.
684 posted on 03/11/2003 4:00:18 PM PST by The ark
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