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To: sonofliberty2
By 2015, China will be engaged in a new round of warlordism and barbarism, and they won't care about contesting power in the western Pacific--they will be far too busy trying to contest power in the streets of Beijing and Shanghai...
31 posted on 03/05/2002 10:26:38 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah,Black Jade, color_tear,OKCSubmariner,
Ya, ya. Warlordism, my eye. Same sort of wishful thinking was projected about the Nazi's. Didn't happen. And won't with nukes at their beck and call.

Further, we are looking at a cohesive IDEOLOGICALLY united heirarchy running multiple disinformation campaigns while racing in a military build-up of staggering proportions. And you continue to misunderstand the inherent dynamic weakness for deterrence, not to mention war-winning, for that matter, of the continuing erosion of the US Fleet capability, while the PRC is on the way to becoming a first-rank Navy.

36 posted on 03/05/2002 10:45:38 AM PST by Paul Ross
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To: Poohbah, sonofliberty2
By 2015, China will be engaged in a new round of warlordism and barbarism, and they won't care about contesting power in the western Pacific--they will be far too busy trying to contest power in the streets of Beijing and Shanghai...

This is a very idealistic and naive assumption. Dream on! The ChiCom government is growing stronger and more entrenched in power every day thanks to US trade and appeasement policies providing them with $100 billion a year to increase their police state apparatus and build up their military. Who exactly, do you think the PLA will be fighting in the streets? The people you say? What do you think will be the outcome of such a fight? Think of Tianamenn a hundred times over, a thousand, ney ten thousand times over (100 million civilian dead) because that is the number of dead Chinaman the Butchers of Beijing are willing to sacrifice in order to maintain Communism's hold on power.

You fail to comprehend the Asian mind. The ChiComs place far less value on human life than we do. They already have killed a minimum of 60 million of their people in the past five decades (not counting the 66 million-odd forced abortions and infanticides they commit each and every year using 1986 figures). They kill hundreds of thousands of political and religious dissidents every year in the laogai death camps which hold between 7 and 20 million prisoners. What makes you think that they will hesitate to kill a few million more in the streets of Beijing. Indeed, they may view it in a positive light as a means of helping them with their population control program.
74 posted on 03/05/2002 7:22:36 PM PST by rightwing2
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