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Van Dam's on Americas Most Wanted, Sat. March 2, 2002 TRANSCRIPTS! (Story continues to change!)
Americas Most Wanted.com ^ | March 4, 2002 | AMW

Posted on 03/04/2002 3:27:44 PM PST by FresnoDA

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To: Greg Weston
Pass or flunk, lie detector tests are unreliable. Which, as most intelligent people know, is why they're not admissible in court.
61 posted on 03/04/2002 6:05:19 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
Right? RIGHT!
62 posted on 03/04/2002 6:10:45 PM PST by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
Please reread my post. I said nothing of the sort. I said, and I repeat for those who might be intellectually challenged, that polygraphs are unreliable and unuseable as evidence. This does not make you "right;" it just makes you appear to be struggling to make a point--any point.
63 posted on 03/04/2002 6:15:01 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
VD's speaking in public about the case, check out Breaking....FDA
64 posted on 03/04/2002 6:17:43 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: golitely
It's my understanding that Qualcom hired the PR firm. That's where DVD works.
65 posted on 03/04/2002 7:05:43 PM PST by It's me
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To: Jaded
The area that the body was found was searched once AFTER DW was arrested and nothing was found and they go back 5 days later and poof!!

I've heard this here on FR a few times but, I've not heard it in the local San Diego paper or news. Where did you get your info?

66 posted on 03/04/2002 7:09:44 PM PST by It's me
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Are you absolutely sure that the VD's have? could they be being told the same thing?

Anything is possible, but it is not procedure to make false press statements. If they were doing a sting, they would have simply said nothing to the press about polygraphs and having ruled the parents out as suspects.

Cops are generally considerate, caring, and honorable people. They greive with victims and their families. Their attitude toward and statements about the Van Dams are indicative of what they know about the evidence.

Many just want to overlook this point so as to continue full tilt in the Van Dam Slam as you so poetically put it. As poorly as they've played to the t.v. cameras, it's impossible for me to believe they've "played" the cops.

Of course, some now want to conclude that there is a cover up because the swing thing goes high up into local politics. And while paranoics sometimes really do have enemies, Free Republic has its share of iredeemable tin-foil mad hatters. They simply cannot accept that another pedophile killer could have just happened to an unlucky and unperfect family.

67 posted on 03/04/2002 7:37:16 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: It's me
It was on the UnionTrib site on 2/28 "Volunteer searchers find a body in Dehesa" by Steve Schmidt and Joe Hughes. Sorry I don't know how to link.

Searchers on Saturday were in the area where the body was found yesterday and came up empty, Garcia said. It's about midway down in the story.

68 posted on 03/04/2002 7:40:21 PM PST by Jaded
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To: Valpal1
Cops are generally considerate, caring, and honorable people. They greive with victims and their families. Their attitude toward and statements about the Van Dams are indicative of what they know about the evidence.

Many just want to overlook this point so as to continue full tilt in the Van Dam Slam as you so poetically put it. As poorly as they've played to the t.v. cameras, it's impossible for me to believe they've "played" the cops.

yes, cops are indeed very caring individuals, especially when it comes to child abduction/murder. My older brothers are all police officers and have had to deal with very similar situations to the Van Dam case. I do not envy them their jobs.

I do not believe that the cops are being played - but having some insider information regarding the workings of law enforcement, I do know that the police will often play good cop/bad cop in order to draw out a suspect (Ala Susan Smith)I also know that they will be respectful to the family even if they suspect that a family member was involved.

I know very little about the case, but from what I have read in the news, I am very uncomfortable with the way things have played out - especially the part about the location/recovery of the body. A body left outdoors for a period of several days, will start to carry a stench. The stench will draw scavengers out, which in return will decimate a small body in very little time. And as I have stated before, according to reports, the area had already been searched prior to the recovery and it was not located.

It is possible that scavengers were the reason that the body was moved...... but wouldn't the police have known this?

69 posted on 03/05/2002 1:21:36 AM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Whoever dumped the body there knew that that exact location had been previously searched and assumed that investigators would not return there.... a la Columbo
70 posted on 03/05/2002 5:50:12 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Valpal1
"could have just happened to an unlucky and unperfect family"

There's your common sense speaking. "Could have just happened" -- magical thinking, possible, but almost magic if so. "Unlucky and imperfect" -- glimmer of common sense, as that combination means "likely suspects".

A rotten situation, and circumstances as reported do leave the couple VDs in serious consideration, at least as a major contributing factor, if not as accomplices or worse.

71 posted on 03/05/2002 6:06:34 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
It's not magical thinking. Pedophiles are everywhere, and becoming epidemic. They want to be called "Intergenerational partners" because it's less negative. They have taken a page out of the Gay Liberation play book. They want our children for sex.

A certain portion of this pervert population do not have the social skills to groom children for seduction so they resort to coercion, i.e. abduction and rape. Most release their victims alive, but about one third don't. Usually because the child knows who they are and can identify them, but sometimes because they are "out of control" much like Ted Bundy's last rampage.

DW "crapped" in his own back yard, so to speak. The Van Dam's were the unlucky victims who made the unfortunate mistake of not properly securing their home. For this, they will pay forever in private guilt and public shame.

72 posted on 03/05/2002 7:21:36 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
Pedophiles are everywhere, and becoming epidemic.

Bogeyman thinking, still in that magical mindset.

73 posted on 03/05/2002 7:25:09 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Apparently you don't keep current on their political activism or on FBI statistics. They ARE a problem. Guys like DW kill 100 children a year in the U.S.

You are unfamiliar with the Belgium kidnap/child sex ring?

Or the many third world child sex tourism hot spots? They aren't catering to the locals. It's for rich Americans and Europeans.

Take your blinders off!

74 posted on 03/05/2002 7:31:54 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: BunnySlippers
My guess is that the neighbors were pushing for a pr guy. The whole neighborhood was about to be the talk of the tabloid industry, the new Peyton Place of the 21st century.

These people make me sick. We talk about the terrorists being animals. Well, these people are animals in heat. It is so sad that the little girl had to suffer this way. While I don't blame the girl's death or abduction on the parents, I do think that she was a victim of the culture of(or lack of) the community, where sex was the focus of their lives.

75 posted on 03/05/2002 7:51:37 AM PST by Eva
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To: Valpal1
More children sold in slavery, eventually sex slavery, by their parents, I might think from similar reports. Yet the reports are anecdotal, and the statistics spotty. Pedophiles are not "everywhere" -- meaning hanging out at every child's home back door. There are many, still 100 deaths a year is an exceedingly rare thing in a nation of 275 million people or so.

Can you find how many children were killed by their own parents last year? That question is begged, as a fair follow-on to your cite of the 100 killed by pedophiles.

76 posted on 03/05/2002 8:42:44 AM PST by bvw
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To: Valpal1
Apparently you don't keep current on their political activism or on FBI statistics. They ARE a problem. Guys like DW kill 100 children a year in the U.S.

I'm in agreement with you but 100 is AWFULLY low. John Walsh on LKL (transcript on cnn.com) last night said that just in the Sabre Springs community there were 13 registered sex offenders. Children disappear without a trace all the time.

77 posted on 03/05/2002 3:51:10 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
The smell alone should have led anyone to the area that the child's body was.

Certainly, trained police dogs.

78 posted on 03/05/2002 5:03:50 PM PST by Clock King
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To: BunnySlippers
The 100 DEAD children and their parents do not consider those numbers LOW.

And that number does not include the unsolved/body not recovered cases. Only the confirmed DEAD.

79 posted on 03/05/2002 5:24:00 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Clock King
Exactly, and this is one of the things that I find disturbing about the case.
80 posted on 03/05/2002 5:36:50 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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