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Van Dam's on Americas Most Wanted, Sat. March 2, 2002 TRANSCRIPTS! (Story continues to change!)
Americas Most Wanted.com ^ | March 4, 2002 | AMW

Posted on 03/04/2002 3:27:44 PM PST by FresnoDA

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To: Uni-Poster, constitutiongirl,FresnoDA
Lacking an Amber Plan, getting a P.R. firm, doing the t.v./radio talk show circuit is a second best alternative. But desperate parents will do anything to get their child back.

I cannot seriously credit the idea, that parents who are allegedly complicite or guilty themselves would take this route. The risks of exposure seem to great.

But desperate and innocent parents would. They would do anything, and skeletons in their closet be damned, they will take the hits to get their daughter back.

What Is the AMBER Plan?

The AMBER Plan is a voluntary partnership between law-enforcement agencies and broadcasters to activate an urgent bulletin in the most serious child-abduction cases.

Broadcasters use the Emergency Alert System (EAS), formerly called the Emergency Broadcast System, to air a description of the missing child and suspected abductor.

This is the same concept used during severe weather emergencies. The goal of the AMBER Alert is to instantly galvanize the entire community to assist in the search for and safe return of the child.

When and Why Was the AMBER Plan Created?

The AMBER Plan was created in 1996 as a powerful legacy to 9-year-old Amber Hagerman, a bright little girl who was kidnapped and brutally murdered while riding her bicycle in Arlington, Texas. The tragedy shocked and outraged the entire community. Residents contacted radio stations in the Dallas area and suggested they broadcast special “alerts” over the airwaves so that they could help prevent such incidents in the future.

In response to the community’s concern for the safety of local children, the Dallas/Fort Worth Association of Radio Managers teamed up with local law-enforcement agencies in northern Texas and developed this innovative early warning system to help find abducted children. Statistics show that, when abducted, a child’s greatest enemy is time.

How Does the AMBER Plan Work?

Once law enforcement has been notified about an abducted child, they must first determine if the case meets the AMBER Plan’s criteria for triggering an alert.

Each program establishes its own AMBER Plan criteria; however, the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children suggests three criteria that should be met before an Alert is activated.

• law enforcement confirms a child has been abducted
• law enforcement believes the circumstances surrounding the abduction indicate that the child is in danger of serious bodily harm or death
• there is enough descriptive information about the child, abductor, and/or suspect’s vehicle to believe an immediate broadcast alert will help

If these criteria are met, alert information must be put together for public distribution. This information can include descriptions and pictures of the missing child, the suspected abductor, a suspected vehicle, and any other information available and valuable to identifying the child and suspect.

The information is then faxed to radio stations designated as primary stations under the Emergency Alert System (EAS).

The primary stations send the same information to area radio and television stations and cable systems via the EAS, and it is immediately broadcast by participating stations to millions of listeners.

Radio stations interrupt programming to announce the Alert, and television stations and cable systems run a “crawl” on the screen along with a picture of the child.

Is the AMBER Plan Successful!

Tremendously! The program’s popularity has been sweeping across the United States and into Canada. Since the original AMBER Plan was established, 26 modified versions have been adopted at local, regional, and statewide levels. To date the AMBER Plan has been credited with recovering 16 children!

Those 16 kids are worth any amount of public humilation. They are alive and with their families.


41 posted on 03/04/2002 4:27:12 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Uni-Poster
I don't think anyone hopes the parents were involved, I think that alot of people are just getting sick of changing stories and parents who will not tell the truth and act like everything is all about them, not their daughter.

That's part of it. I also believe that some people feel that the VD's "alternate" life style was in large part responsible for what happened to their daughter.

If only a third of what I have read about these two is accurate, I would agree.

42 posted on 03/04/2002 4:27:26 PM PST by evad
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To: Jaded
The area that the body was found was searched once AFTER DW was arrested and nothing was found and they go back 5 days later and poof!! There's a body fairly close to the road. Huh?

This is the part that really gets me!!!

43 posted on 03/04/2002 4:30:26 PM PST by evad
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To: Jaded
There's a body fairly close to the road. Huh?

About the "close to the road" angle: The body was 25 feet from the edge of the road and the embankment was 7 feet high so it was never visible from the highway. (The fact that it was 7 feet up is why they built those stairs).

44 posted on 03/04/2002 4:33:14 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: FresnoDA
Here is something to consider...VD's have not disavowed the "alternative lifestyle" questions. From that point the question should be, "What type of alternative lifestyle?". Possibilities would include: Swinging/Partner Swapping and/or other sexual preferences, Occult, Drug Abuse. Take your pick...sex...cults...or money.
45 posted on 03/04/2002 4:35:23 PM PST by demsux
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To: Valpal1
Lacking an Amber Plan, getting a P.R. firm, doing the t.v./radio talk show circuit is a second best alternative. But desperate parents will do anything to get their child back.

I cannot seriously credit the idea, that parents who are allegedly complicite or guilty themselves would take this route. The risks of exposure seem to great.

But desperate and innocent parents would. They would do anything, and skeletons in their closet be damned, they will take the hits to get their daughter back.

But isn't this exactly what Susan Smith did???

46 posted on 03/04/2002 4:44:21 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: BunnySlippers
About the "close to the road" angle: The body was 25 feet from the edge of the road and the embankment was 7 feet high so it was never visible from the highway. (The fact that it was 7 feet up is why they built those stairs).

I am going to try not to be too greusome about this..... But have you ever been anywhere near a decaying body? Because if you have, it is a smell that is unmistakable and unfogettable. If the area was searched prior to the time the body was found, and the body was in such an advanced state of decay, how could it not have been found in the first search? The smell alone should have led anyone to the area that the child's body was.

47 posted on 03/04/2002 4:49:43 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: FresnoDA
Ditto on the ping request. Your info is much appreciated.
48 posted on 03/04/2002 4:54:55 PM PST by HoHoeHeaux
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Um, no. Susan Smith attracted police scrutiny almost immediately with her inconsistent stories to them. They told her she had "done well" on the polygraph, when in fact she had done poorly. The lied to her about a "drug sting" operation they had going at the time and intersection she claimed the hijacking occurred, and she happily changed her story and they said "Gotcha". She quickly broke down and confessed.

The situations are not even close. The Van Dam family has been ruled out as suspects and is closely cooperating with the investigations according to SDPD press releases.

I am not giving "lifestyle" rumors much credence until confirmed by reliable sources willing to give up faces and names. No anonymous sources, or posters meet that criteria.

I am going to "trust" SDPD is doing it right, unless somebody can show more than gossip and innuendo is at work.

As for conflicting stories - press versions are often conflicting, especially in the early days, as they rush to be first with publication, or cut and chop the story to fit the space available on the web or print page.

There are no credible (or even any) reports that I know of saying their statements to police conflict.

49 posted on 03/04/2002 5:02:55 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
Actually, a number of the inconsitencies were taken from interviews. For instance, the material on America's Most Wanted seemed to morph as time went on. Don't blame the press for these, blame the van Dams. They flat out couldn't get their stories straight. Which brings up the question of truthfulness--lie detectors or not. As has been mentioned before, sociopaths typically ace lie detector tests.
50 posted on 03/04/2002 5:07:10 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
The problem I have with the Van Dams is their story continues to change. They are not being truthful and I'm sorry I just don't buy the "it's none of your business about our sex life" song and dance.

The child was missing, and the circumstances allowing for her easy abduction have to be examined.

If Westerfield comes up being the perp, and he did it, then he deserves his eternity in hell.

Meanwhile, we need all the facts about that evening brought forth, including what the van Dams relationship was with him, even if it hurts their "reputation". For the sake of their Daughter, they should have answered the question about their fun and games honestly, with a simple "yes or no", instead of allowing this so-called rumor and inuendo to spiral out of control. At the least, it's only good PR.

sw

51 posted on 03/04/2002 5:09:19 PM PST by spectre
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To: Valpal1
Um, no. Susan Smith attracted police scrutiny almost immediately with her inconsistent stories to them. They told her she had "done well" on the polygraph, when in fact she had done poorly. The lied to her about a "drug sting" operation they had going at the time and intersection she claimed the hijacking occurred, and she happily changed her story and they said "Gotcha". She quickly broke down and confessed.

I was referring to the fact that Susan Smith did in fact go on the talk show route. I made no reference to any other similarities in the two cases. You are correct that she was told that she passed the lie detector test, Are you absolutely sure that the VD's have? could they be being told the same thing?

I am not going to join in the "slam the Van Dam's" fest that goes on here - and I admit that the Ramsey/Smith/Yates/Barnes cases have maybe left me a little jaded, but something is just not right about this case.

52 posted on 03/04/2002 5:11:48 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Bingo! It doesn't pass the smell test...

sw

53 posted on 03/04/2002 5:14:04 PM PST by spectre
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Excellent point about a decaying body.
54 posted on 03/04/2002 5:29:04 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Valpal1
#41...EXCELLENT post!
55 posted on 03/04/2002 5:30:10 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
What is outrageous, the local Fire Department cleaned the sight where Danielle's body was discovered. They removed all the trash and junk from the area ...

I hope they are examining all that trash. If the body laid there for 25 days or so, the trash in the immediate area should contain a lot of clues. But that only applies if the authorities are actively pursuing clues.

56 posted on 03/04/2002 5:35:41 PM PST by fnord
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To: FresnoDA
WHAT ACTIONS? I don't know how I would act if my child were taken from my home. But I don't proport to judge how other act. I believe that perhaps Mrs. Van Dam was rude to her neighbor. But that does not justify him coming in, kidnapping, raping and killing their child. Call me crazy.
57 posted on 03/04/2002 5:42:00 PM PST by Hildy
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To: BunnySlippers
Have you driven past or seen the spot where she was found? I live in East County and we did drive by there on Sunday afternoon. The site is very close to the highway, much closer than I expected. Blinking lights cautioned traffic to "slow down" as you approached the spot from both directions. A newly built wooden stairway provided access up to the area and a small parking lot directly across the street.

My thoughts were that her body could not have been there very long. There are coyotes that roam the hills in East County and there are birds of prey and other animals that would have drawn attention to a body there.

We did not stop but there were many people paying tribute and the small parking lot was full.

It all seems very strange...

58 posted on 03/04/2002 5:45:08 PM PST by messenger4
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To: spectre
"The child was missing, and the circumstances allowing for her easy abduction have to be examined."

And this is not a job for the police but the torch waving gossip mongers. Right?

59 posted on 03/04/2002 5:49:12 PM PST by Greg Weston
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To: golitely
And if the Van Dams had flunked the test you would be loudly trumpeting the "failure". Right?
60 posted on 03/04/2002 5:52:56 PM PST by Greg Weston
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