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To: f.Christian
No wonder Plantinga is so widely praised. I've rarely seen such a compact, thought-provoking argument.
5 posted on 03/01/2002 3:48:02 PM PST by Dumb_Ox
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To: Dumb_Ox
Yeah, an universe based on evolution is senseless but the stealth theocrats/religion want the power-glory from the anarchy-opportunity they get when they displace...take out sense, meaning--purpose with evolution...really---why else bother---there is money in it too---publishing-careers--jobs!
6 posted on 03/01/2002 3:55:49 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Dumb_Ox
"No wonder Plantinga is so widely praised. I've rarely seen such a compact, thought-provoking argument." -- Dumb Ox

Compact but strangely silent on the only information of relevance -- the history of religion and the pantheon of gods in which men have invested belief through the centuries. It is not merely a question of the absence of evidence but also a question of evidence of absence. Plantinga casts the argument between the believer in god and the atheist. He ignores the arguments against his particular god by those that believe in another. Theists collectively refute one another with greater zeal and effectiveness than the most ardent atheistic evidentialist and they do this by historical reference to the proofs of error with which all religions are necessarily imbued.

Additionally, Planting offers an argument to the effect that intellectual malfunction cannot be objectively defined with respect to belief in a god. He does not ask how the believer acquired his belief or if it matters at all what is believed as long as something is believed. If and when he treads down that path he will likely become an atheist himself.

9 posted on 03/01/2002 9:44:52 PM PST by Vercingetorix
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