Posted on 03/01/2002 1:45:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
adam cannot possibly be extolling the virtues of spousal abuse. i am sure he is much too rational to have meant that... i will even say this, that i agree with him that feminism causes women to murder their children through abortion. I believe that to be true. That being said, the day that my husband felt the need to show me the back of his hand, would be the day he would be shown to the door.
If anyone makes me angry today, I'll come take it out on him. LOL
At least nominally, although not always in practice. I think this authority has been overstated anyway (by the feminist movement) because it doesn't take into account the fact that women have always had a certain amount of authority.
If Russell Yates knew his wife was as mentally ill as he now says she was, he shouldn't have left the children exclusively in her care. On the other hand, I don't think he's as much of a creep as everybody's saying he is. That takes away from Andrea's part in this whole thing.
Ya know? Barefoot, preggers and in the kitchen and all???
I appreciate the detail you put in your posts to explain why you believe what you do.
Should Rusty be as accountable for his actions as Andrea? Yes - if he broke the law, then haul him into court. If he did not, then maybe someone needs to examine what laws are needed. I take his defense-presented portrayal with a grain of salt, but can see from it why people would think he was a monster.
But in my mind, if he is ever proven to be a monster, then that puts two monsters on the radar screen. The first is Andrea who murdered five innocent, relatively defenseless children, premeditated. I simply do not want to see one more excuse added to the million our society already has for why someone else should be blamed for their actions; and in her case, I do not see, as sympathetic as she is, why that one more excuse is warranted.
Any man shows me the back of his hand, he will meet my fist.
I am not making excuses for Andrea Yates. However, I think there were very valid reasons why the murders were allowed to happen. She should have never been left alone with those children. The woman belonged in a hospital. There is too much psychiatric history in her medical records for her to be the lone killer of five children. I do not see Andrea as a victim for killing her children.
However, was she not a victim of a husband who at best was in denial regarding her condition and a psychiatrist who altered his records pertaining to her condition?
I get Houston TV and newspapers. I've probably "seen" more, read more about Rusty than has been in the national news. He is extremely weird. "He doesn't like to cry in public" so he does his crying when alone. Excuse me! How can a "normal" person control their tears to that extent?
I still think if she'd been in her "right mind" she would have killed him.
YOUR question is the one that doesn't make sense...
You better be working out because I have been, and if Bella doesn't get you, I'm going too. I despise men that think they can beat on women, physically or mentally.
How's this then....if a man ever shows me the back of his hand, he'll meet the barrel of my gun.
A real man woudn't dream of laying a hand on his wife.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Dude that ain't right...
This is a very in-neresting thread, and my opinions of Yates and Yates have wished and washed a couple times back and forth while I've been sitting here reading it instead of doing work...
Most folks are calling for hubby's head on a platter, him being the spawn of Satan and whatnot... I don't think the man was self-purposely malicious; I think he was misguided (with horribly tragic consequences...) Many folks are also saying Andrea had an obligation to get out of what she couldn't deal with-- easy for people to say who haven't lived with the sort of mentality the Yates subscribed to. Everyone lives in his own birdcage and theirs was fairly different from mainstream, to say the least-- folks say "well why didn't she do this? why didn't she do that?" First she was f-ed in the head, and second it probably genuinely never occurred to her.
I'm speculating that even taking his wife to seek professional psychiatric help was a hard step for Yates, since many of the more conservative religious see mental illness as a spiritual, not physical, incapacitation-- a serious character flaw, perhaps even attributable to demon possession.
Unfortunate case all around. I don't think it really much matters, except as a social/legal statement, whether Andrea Yates is put to death or not because she is already dead inside, as somebody else said above... As far as punishing Mr. Yates, I speculate that he probably passed into his own private living hell a long time ago.
'Sane' or 'InSane' isn't what that waste of skin and good air should be on Trial for in Houston !! !! !!
She was same enough to wait until her husband had left their house. . .prepare her children's death chamber. . .chase the ones around the house that were old enough to attempt to fight for their very lives. . .and. . .then dial 911 AFTER she had called her husband and told him just what she had done !! !! !!
Sane??
. . maybe. .maybe not. .
Crazy?? ??
. . . .maybe. . .
Guilty of, at least, 5 counts of premeditated murder ?? ?? ??
. . .Most definitely !! !! !!
So, wrap her up in 2 miles of Ace Bandages....baste her kerosene and light her up !! !! !! !!
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