[RnMomof7]

I have answered it..he just is not hearing it. I have said God's grace...but if you think you saved yourself you can not hear or understand that

[Ward Smythe]

...but if you think you saved yourself you can not hear or understand that

Mom, to assert that any of us has said that we saved ourselves is misrepresenting our position and clearly not a statement of the Wesleyan-Arminian position.

With your Wesleyan background, you know that is true.

Can you ping me back to where you addressed Shadow's question? Thanks.