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To: xzins
You also realize that the scripture above, if I'm allowed to use/interpret scripture the same way as they use it above, is also legitimate support for the belief that Christ sees infants/children as innocent. 812 posted on 3/1/02 3:34 AM Pacific by xzins

Nope. You can use them for the belief that those who die in infancy, are going to heaven.

David and his infant son were both heaven-bound, but David's infant son was no more "innocent" of Sin than was David. (Scripture nowhere teaches that either was "innocent" of sin).

Death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. The fact that all are born mortal, is juridically founded upon the fact that all have sinned. If Infants have not Sinned, they would not be born mortal. If the were not sinners, they could not die in infancy. Death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.

815 posted on 03/01/2002 4:02:01 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
The logic of your 815 dog just won't hunt.

Jesus declared infants innocent. Paul uses language that shows he sees them as innocent. The psalmist says God uses "infants" to ordain appropriate praise. Throughout the bible there are many verses that speak to an acceptance of the innocense and incapacity of infants and children. You simply cannot argue against it.

While you can argue against the notion that each individual is answerable for his own sin, you don't do so convincingly, provably. You fall back on the preconceptions of your Calvinist construct.

But you have that right. I fall back on a modified Arminian construct.

We are simply proving why this debate has raged for hundreds of years.

823 posted on 03/01/2002 4:37:06 AM PST by xzins
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