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But do you care about that, when you could instead preach lies, and bear false witness, as you do in your #685?

I said that I believe he is not a classical calvinist, but is instead a neo-calvinist.

I really do believe that. How is it a lie?

You know, the way you phrase things makes you seem a melodramatic oddity? Are you a bit histrionic in your business life as well?

A CALVINIST CONSTRUCT

These definitions are all either offered by calvinists on this thread or are condensations of definitions on this site recommended by JerryM: Calvinist Tulip Definition Site recommended by Jerry

T - - Total Depravity means that Natural Man is totally sinful and does not ever WANT in his own spirit to know Christ.

U - - Unconditional Election means that God has elected for His own glory, in accordance with His own will and without regard for the merit of those elected, some for salvation and some to be left in their sins.

L - - Limited Atonement means that Christ died specifically and only for the sins of those who would ever truly believe in Him.

I - - Irresistible Grace means that the elect are incapable of resisting the Holy Spirit's inward call to repentance and salvation.

P - - Perseverance of the Saints means that all those who are truly saved will certainly be brought to heaven and to glorification and will never be lost.

I said that I believe he is not a classical calvinist, but is instead a neo-calvinist. I really do believe that. How is it a lie?

Because the Classical, mainstream doctrine of Calvinism has never taught that "Aborted babies who've had their brains sucked out in a vacuum cleaner are mostly going to hell. Only the elect ones will go to heaven."

You just made this up, because it serves your prejudices. This is not at all what Calvin, Hodge, Newton, Boettner, Warfield, Spurgeon, or Gill taught; these men all believed that "God, who alone sovereignly decides whom He is going to regenerate, has Elected before the foundation of the World to irresistibly apply the Atonement to ALL infants whom He foreknew He would see fit to call from this life in infancy." But you don't care about that, do you? The desire of your heart is to speak lies, and so, you do.

"It has been wickedly, lyingly, and slanderously said of Calvinists, that we believe that some little children perish. Those who make the accusation know that their charge is false. I cannot even dare to hope, though I would wish to do so, that they ignorantly misrepresent us. They wickedly repeat what has been denied a thousand times, what they know is not true.... I know of no exception, but we all hope and believe that all persons dying in infancy are elect. Dr. Gill, who has been looked upon in late times as being a very standard of Calvinism, not to say of ultra-Calvinism, himself never hints for a moment the supposition that any infant has perished, but affirms of it that it is a dark and mysterious subject, but that it is his belief, and he thinks he has Scripture to warrant it, that they who have fallen asleep in infancy have not perished, but have been numbered with the chosen of God, and so have entered into eternal rest. We have never taught the contrary, and when the charge is brought, I repudiate it and say, 'You may have said so, we never did, and you know we never did. If you dare to repeat the slander again, let the lie stand in scarlet on your very cheek if you be capable of a blush.' We have never dreamed of such a thing.

You know it to be a lie, you have been repeatedly informed that you are lying, but you enjoy telling lies -- so you continue to do so, of course.

You know, the way you phrase things makes you seem a melodramatic oddity? Are you a bit histrionic in your business life as well?

Unworthy of response.