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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
...is the Atonement intended for those who die in infancy, or is it not??

Those who die in infancy have not sinned. There is no need for sacrifice.

683 posted on 02/28/2002 5:16:58 PM PST by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
There is no need for sacrifice

Excellent answer. The Calvinist response about infants is this: U - - Unconditional Election means that God has elected for His own glory, in accordance with His own will and without regard for the merit of those elected, some for salvation and some to be left in their sins.

Many calvinists insist that most of those who die in infancy go to hell; that only the elect infants go to heaven.

684 posted on 02/28/2002 5:28:16 PM PST by xzins
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Here's an interesting observation about many pro-life calvinists who believe that life begins at conception. Aborted babies who've had their brains sucked out in a vacuum cleaner are mostly going to hell. Only the elect ones will go to heaven.

Only the neo-calvinists who believe in an unlimited atonement or a modified unlimited atonement can theologize aborted babies into heaven.

685 posted on 02/28/2002 5:33:55 PM PST by xzins
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To: ShadowAce, xzins, Jerry_M, CCWoody, RnMomof7, the_doc
Those who die in infancy have not sinned. There is no need for sacrifice. 683 posted on 2/28/02 6:16 PM Pacific by ShadowAce

Ergo, you do not believe that Christ died for "all the world", but rather, Christ died for "all the world except those who die in infancy, for they need no atonement".

Right?

697 posted on 02/28/2002 6:07:41 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: ShadowAce;xzins;OrthodoxPresbyterian;CCWoody;Jerry_M
Those who die in infancy have not sinned. There is no need for sacrifice.

So neither of you believe in orginal sin? Infants just like everyone of us deserve hell . It is the sovereign mercy and grace of God that saves even them!

717 posted on 02/28/2002 6:47:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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