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To: xzins
A CALVINIST CONSTRUCT

These definitions are all either offered by calvinists on this thread or are condensations of definitions on this site recommended by JerryM: Calvinist Tulip Definition Site recommended by Jerry

T - - Total Depravity means that Natural Man is totally sinful and does not ever WANT in his own spirit to know Christ.

U - - Unconditional Election means that God has elected for His own glory, in accordance with His own will and without regard for the merit of those elected, some for salvation and some to be left in their sins.

L - - Limited Atonement means that Christ died specifically and only for the sins of those who would ever truly believe in Him.

I - - Irresistible Grace means that the elect are incapable of resisting the Holy Spirit's inward call to repentance and salvation.

P - - Perseverance of the Saints means that all those who are truly saved will certainly be brought to heaven and to glorification and will never be lost.

652 posted on 02/28/2002 3:51:12 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
A little more readable in green, no less frightening.
654 posted on 02/28/2002 4:03:02 PM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: xzins, the_doc, Jerry_M, RnMomof7, CCWoody
"A Calvinist Construct" Rejected

Among other things, I object to the wording of Points "L" and "I" (Point "L" is poorly worded. Point "I" is downright incorrectly worded).

I will offer to correct the wording of these two points; but I will respectfully refuse to offer this correction until after the Arminians will offer a one-sentence summation of their Objection to the First Point, Total Depravity.

I also advise my fellow Calvinists NOT to accept xzins' "Calvinist Construct" as constituting a definition of Calvinism until such time as I have corrected the mis-statements of Points "L" and "I". We will not acknowledge the "Construct" as reflecting our views.

As I said, I will correct the wording of "L" and "I" (which I know to be incorrectly stated) and mull over the wording of "U" and "P" after I have been supplied with a one-sentence objection to Point "T".

However, I will NOT offer these corrections UNTIL a one-sentence objection to Point "T" is offered; and until I have made my corrections, we will not acknowledge the "Construct" as being respresentative of our views AT ALL.

Excepting, of course, point T, which is correctly stated, and which we are prepared to debate.

655 posted on 02/28/2002 4:05:53 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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