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To: Jerry_M
You continue to insist that we hold to a theology that casts babies into hell even when we have demonstrated, time and again, that this is not so.

You say you have demonstrated that "this is not so" and then you say that your little small-g god decided before the foundation of the world that your little group would be saved and everyone else damned to Hell and that those that are so damned can't accept the offer of salvation in Christ.

But then realizing that there is no reason to believe that a god so arbitrary and brutal would have any difficulty being just as brutal to babies and little children -- since he sentenced them -- in your little view -- to Hell with the others who also had no choice.

Thankfully, the God of the Bible is a Great God. Much bigger -- and thankfully -- much more loving than yours. He is a Father who sent His Son to die for ALL men that as many as believed in Him would be saved. No arbitrariness, no secret little club with membership closed before the foundation of the world. Just the true offer of Life Everlasting and Life Abundant if we "believe in Jesus Christ" (Paul's words to the Phillipian jailer, not mine).

And that, my friend, is no 'Arminian lie.' That's Good News.

623 posted on 02/28/2002 2:19:11 PM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: winstonchurchill
He is a Father who sent His Son to die for ALL men that as many as believed in Him would be saved. No arbitrariness, no secret little club with membership closed before the foundation of the world. Just the true offer of Life Everlasting and Life Abundant if we "believe in Jesus Christ"

Amen.

624 posted on 02/28/2002 2:23:42 PM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: winstonchurchill; Jerry_M
Just the true offer of Life Everlasting and Life Abundant if we "believe in Jesus Christ" (Paul's words to the Phillipian jailer, not mine).

Gosh, I am all a tingle! Tell me: How does one believe in Jesus Christ!

627 posted on 02/28/2002 2:25:30 PM PST by CCWoody
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To: winstonchurchill, Jerry_M, CCWoody, RnMomof7
You say you have demonstrated that "this is not so" and then you say that your little small-g god decided before the foundation of the world that your little group would be saved and everyone else damned to Hell and that those that are so damned can't accept the offer of salvation in Christ. But then realizing that there is no reason to believe that a god so arbitrary and brutal would have any difficulty being just as brutal to babies and little children -- since he sentenced them -- in your little view -- to Hell with the others who also had no choice. Thankfully, the God of the Bible is a Great God. Much bigger -- and thankfully -- much more loving than yours. He is a Father who sent His Son to die for ALL men that as many as believed in Him would be saved. No arbitrariness, no secret little club with membership closed before the foundation of the world. Just the true offer of Life Everlasting and Life Abundant if we "believe in Jesus Christ" (Paul's words to the Phillipian jailer, not mine). And that, my friend, is no 'Arminian lie.' That's Good News.

But unborn infants cannot "choose to believe" in Jesus. Thus the requisite condition for Arminian "salvation", they cannot fulfill.

So the Arminian's god just damned all who die in infancy.

Oops.

Oh, well, you gotta break a few eggs, I guess.....

628 posted on 02/28/2002 2:25:36 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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