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To: Jerry_M
Of course, you still continue to side-step

It is not side-stepping to very publicly claim in the above post and elsewhere that I WILL not deal with the subject because it has been personalized. You probably need to look at the definition of side-step.

I DIRECTLY answered you that I would not get into it.

I'm amused that you felt the need to deal with the subject anyway. Perhaps you had a hidden agenda. That's between you and God.

You haven't addressed Wesley's point.

Why would the devil try to DEVOUR SOULS if it is impossible with the tulip God for him to do so? He cannot win those who have been chosen. He cannot lose those who have been damned.

It is exactly the same logic as that used by some Christians who believe strongly in the tulip God. They believe that since God has ALREADY CHOSEN and there's nothing they can do or could ever have been done to change that, then there's no sense in worrying about anyone going to heaven or anyone going to hell. It's all set in stone, so "don't worry, be happy."

21 posted on 02/26/2002 8:21:06 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins; the_doc
It is exactly the same logic as that used by some Christians who believe strongly in the tulip God. They believe that since God has ALREADY CHOSEN and there's nothing they can do or could ever have been done to change that, then there's no sense in worrying about anyone going to heaven or anyone going to hell. It's all set in stone, so "don't worry, be happy."

And, this is exactly the same type of "logic" that we have refuted several times recently, and that you have confessed does not characterize our position. As a result, why keep bringing it up? You truly are uncharitable, and your words border on slander. Who has the "hidden agenda" here?

28 posted on 02/26/2002 8:33:08 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: xzins; the_doc
Re 21.

You seem so happy to contend that the devil can snatch the souls of God's elect out of His hand, but refuse to answer the question as to whether or not you can be deceived by the self-same devil.

Mighty peculiar. (Seems like a clear-cut case of satanic deception.)

30 posted on 02/26/2002 8:35:50 AM PST by Jerry_M
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