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To: fortheDeclaration
This would be a good time to take out our hymn books and sing:

Amazing Grace


1,151 posted on 03/02/2002 7:10:34 PM PST by Consort
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To: Jimer, Rnmomof7,Xzins, Ward Smythe, White Mountain,winston churchill
This would be a good time to take out our hymn books and sing: Amazing Grace

Not for the Reprobate it wouldn't be amazing grace would it?

Calvin here quoting Augustine,"Who created the reprobate but God? And why? Because He willed it. Why did He will it? 'Who are thou O man, that repliest against God'? (Eternal Predestination, Treasury of Evangelical writings,p.184)
That about sums up the 'Grace' of Calvinism, great for the 'chosen' but woe to those who got left out! But hey, they were godless wretches anyway, right? Nice that Augustine would wrench a verse out of its context (referring to the discipline of the Jews and their partial hardening) but it does sum the Augustinian/Calvinistic systems final argument, 'It is the secret councils of God'
1,167 posted on 03/02/2002 10:28:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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