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To: Ward Smythe;Jerry_M;CCWoody; OrthodoxPresbyterian;xzins
God foreknew all the actions of Hitler.God knew exactly what Hitler would do . God allowed Hitler to do as he wanted to do. This non action on the part of God accomplish HIS purposes!

Did God predestine the works of Hitler by His non action?

1,098 posted on 03/02/2002 2:59:21 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
God allowed Hitler to do as he wanted to do. This non action on the part of God accomplish HIS purposes!

No, you are missing the point. Multiple times on this board, Calvinists have quoted --Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. -- Isaiah 45:7

In Post #213 OP states in response to my question: "So God is responsible for the evil of the Soviet Union?": "So, ultimately, yes -- God is responsible for everything."

I acknowledge that God, allows evil to happen. The assertion on these threads has been, several times, that God causes evil to happen.

As Jerry said "Now, you can argue with this, but the fact is, God has created all of mankind, and He has so ordered the events of their lives so as to determine who they are and what they will accomplish."

So, according to Jerry, and I believe O.P., and apparently you, God ordered the lives of Hitler and Stalin to do evil.

That would appear to be in conflict with the statement of Calvin noted in forthedeclaration's Post #1094:

Fanatics torture this word evil, as if God were the author of evil, that is, of sin; but it is very obvious how ridiculously they abuse this passage of the Prophet. This is sufficiently explained by the contrast, the parts of which must agree with each other; for he contrasts "peace" with "evil," that is, with afflictions, wars, and other adverse occurrences. If he contrasted "righteousness" with "evil," there would be some plausibility in their reasonings, but this is a manifest contrast of things that are opposite to each other. Consequently, we ought not to reject the ordinary distinction, that God is the author of the "evil" of punishment, but not of the "evil" of guilt.

And so, it would appear that having "all the answers" does not require having the right ones, or at least not the same ones as Calvin.

Jerry has told me before that there is not at "dime's worth of difference" between his theology and Calvin's (and a host of others).

Many, if not all of you have pointed to God the creator as creating everything, including evil, and the evil of guilt.

It appears Calvin disagreed.

1,102 posted on 03/02/2002 4:06:27 PM PST by Ward Smythe
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