Winston, they're accusing you of "satanic influence" (accuser of the brethren......who could that be?....SAATAN!!)
It happens when I disagree with the mind-cult line. You're of a more direct disposition when you call their construct, non-christian, and you act at these times like their own "ortho" and "aggressive." Makes them angry, but they cannot see it in the opposite direction.
Well, I learned this afternoon that their constant harping on error (which I had heretofore regarded as merely obnoxious) is actually misleading sound people astray and into their brutal and callous doctrines.
I admit to being more than a little upset by that. They are now not merely prideful, puffed up and smug in their prattling and preening, their constant misstatements are leading some of Christ's "little ones" astray.
The frozen chosen are sowing weeds. We need some Scriptural 'Round-Up" here.
Romans 10:9&10 + Points 2 & 3 of above Arminian construct. There's your answer. Now come back and explain it to me.
886 posted on 3/1/02 9:30 AM Pacific by xzins
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- Christ provided a universal opportunity by dying for all men and for every man such that ALL those who turn to him as true repentant believers are saved.
- Man is so depraved that foreplanned divine intervention and preceding divine grace are necessary to bring about faith or any good deed.
Given your definitions, a person must turn to Christ as a repentant believer to be saved (#2). Plus, because a man is so depraved, divine intervention and preceding divine grace are necessary [before] faith or any good deed, even the "good deed" of turning to Christ as a true repentant believer (#3).
Therefore, in order for a man to believe from his heart unto salvation, God must intervene in that man’s life prior to that man exercising saving faith.
If this is correct, then please provide your scriptural evidence for this preceding divine grace. If this is incorrect, then please correct for your beliefs.