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I suspect xzins is viscerally opposed to the doctrine that infants enter the world speaking lies. Just read his posts on the subject.
But this doctrine is Biblical.
OK. So infants enter the world speaking lies, thus sinning. Yet you claim that these same infants enter heaven--but these same infants who die have never repented of their sins, so you are claiming that God is bringing unrepentant sinners into heaven--correct?

I don't believe that is biblical at all.

I suspect xzins is viscerally opposed to the doctrine that infants enter the world speaking lies. Just read his posts on the subject.

It's a "triumph" psalm that speaks of the conflict between the wicked and the godly. It says that the godly are gonna wash their feet in the blood of the wicked....guess we're gonna take that one literally, right?

It says that these wicked folks begin going astray as soon as they're born. Well, it also says that they're like poisonous young snakes and that God should kill them while they're young.

Then they'll go to heaven, no doubt. Killing babies for Jesus.

Actually, the point of the psalm is that Judgement will eventually fall on those evil ones who seem to glide by without anyone apparently keeping them in line.

OK. So infants enter the world speaking lies, thus sinning. Yet you claim that these same infants enter heaven--but these same infants who die have never repented of their sins, so you are claiming that God is bringing unrepentant sinners into heaven--correct? I don't believe that is biblical at all.

I don't believe that God brings unrepentant sinners into Heaven.

I believe that God is the Creator of Repentance. Mature, adult belivers are capable of manifesting Repentance, but God Alone is the giver of every good and perfect gift.

Do you believe that Penitence is required for Salvation? I believe that John the Baptist was Saved from his mother's womb.

But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John. And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth. For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

If Repentance is required for Salvation... and John the Baptist was Saved... then God must be able to create Penitence in even an unborn child.

Oh, you say to me, Infants cannot manifest their God-created Penitence? Well, I will freely grant that, to our darkly-seeing mortal eyes, regenerate infants cannot demonstrably manifest Penitence. I mean, sure, maybe if you brought the Unborn Messiah into the very presence of a Penitent Unborn, they might dance about the womb for joy (Luke 1:44), or something like that. But otherwise your Mortal Eyes would have no idea that God had created Penitence in such a little one!!

But who cares what your Mortal Eyes can see?
Man looks upon the outward appearance (1 Samuel 16:7), but God directs the hearts wherever He wills (Proverbs 21:1).