[GROUCHOTWO]

Your debating maneuvers lack logic.

[veronica]

I think Ben is doing just fine.

And he has no need to convince us, (or himself) of his 'superiority'. He is secure, in other words. In addition, he is well-mannered. Brought up right, one might say.

[CommiesOut]

No, Groucho. I see a very good logic.
Read again.

[BenF]

Since your post lacked honesty, integrity, and plain common sense, my debating technique was appropriate.