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To: samtheman
I am reminded of Asimov's psycho-history: Following causal threads across centuries.

Well...
No U.S. involvement in WWI
-->Stalemate in WWI
--> negotiated peace in 1918 with no oppressive terms on Germany
--> no WWII.
---> strong Germany in 1940's and 50's
---> no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe in 1940's -80's.

The crystal ball, however, begins to get a little fuzzy by the 1980's

Would a strong Germany and stronger USSR have faced off in the late 40's? It gets fuzzy.

18 posted on 02/21/2002 10:35:17 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: edwin hubble
Would a strong Germany and stronger USSR have faced off in the late 40's? It gets fuzzy.

Yes,and that isn't even taking into account the communist agents in place in Germany and other European countries that were determined to overthrown their goverments. All of which makes the whole theory so much HorseHillary.

65 posted on 02/22/2002 3:42:33 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: edwin hubble
There would most likely not have been a USSR, since neither the Austro-Hungarian nor German Empires would have been predisposed to allow such a monstrosity to flourish on their borders. Also, the Treaty of Brest-Vitovsk had already been concluded on the Eastern front, stripping Russia of some high-quality real estate, and giving the western powers a starting line much closer to Moscow in case invasion was required. The Reds would have been in no position to recapture the Baltic states, and, with German support, the Whites would probably have won the civil war.

The Austrian Kaiser, Karl, would probably have raised the Slavic peoples of the Empire to equal status with the Germans and Hungarians, thus effecting a "Triple Monarchy" which had been Archduke Franz Ferdinand's intention (had he not been murdered by the Serbs).

Also, one more thing to consider about the outcome of WW I: the various Arab states whose citizens are now wreaking havoc throughout the world would not exist. They would still be part of the Turkish Empire, which had been secularised by Kemal Abdul Ataturk. The Holy Land would have continued under Turkish administration, with free access granted to members of all religions.

People do not like to contemplate this scenario, because it increases the enormity of Woodrow Wilson's crime against Europe and Christendom. It also suggests that America was on the wrong side in at least one war -- and that the most important one in history.

79 posted on 02/22/2002 10:50:33 AM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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