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What's Worse Than A Dead Beat Dad?
"The Other Parent" website ^ | February 21, 2002 | The Other Parent website (Robert J. & Marie A. Baker, Jr.)

Posted on 02/21/2002 8:32:12 AM PST by Saundra Duffy

Divorce is bad enough - a bloody nightmare - but what happens to families in the aftermath of divorce is even worse. I was pretty ignorant on the subject until my son was faced with the most God awful challenge of his life. The following is from a web site created by a husband and wife who are outraged and hurt over the entire process. Thanks, FReepers, for reading about and contemplating these issues.

I am writing this letter to tell the country about a cruel injustice and blatant discrimination that is going on in the U. S. right now.

My wife and I are both divorced with children from a previous marriage. We have both been granted Joint Legal Custody of our children and are both named the Non-Custodial parent. We are ordered by the court to pay child support every month, and the Custodial parent is ordered to allow visitation.

Here is the injustice:

If we fail to pay child support the custodial parent has a government agency to get the money for the parent with no out of pocket expenses.

If we fail to return the children to the custodial parent at the end of the visitation I can be charged with Kidnapping, which is a felony.

However:

If the custodial parent ignores the court order and refuses to allow visitation as ordered, we are forced to retain an attorney to have the case tried, which takes time and money. The police department will not enforce the court order. The courts require a petition filed (which can take months and be very expensive). Social services will not help either.

Furthermore, the most the custodial parent can be charged with is Contempt of Court, which is a misdemeanor.

Where is the justice in this? One parent has a government agency to protect them while the other parent has to retain an attorney, wait months, and hope to be granted a new court order, that the custodial parent can also ignore.

Money due for child support can be collected any time, but the missed days of visitation can never be replaced.

It is not just the parent that suffers either. The child is robbed of time with their other natural parent, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and siblings. And the family members of the non-custodial parents suffer as well.

Lately there has been a lot of talk about "Dead Beat Dads", but no talk about the other parent, the ones who love their children and cherish every moment they get to share with their kids.

Even though we have Joint Legal Custody, we do not have joint legal rights or protection. The current laws need to be updated so that the other parent gets the same protection from the government.

We are urging everyone that has had a similar problem, known someone with this problem, or just thinks this is unjust, to write their congressman and senators demanding a change in the laws as well an agency for the protection of the other parent. In all fairness we deserve the same rights and protection the custodial parent has.

You can also write us and we will forward your letters to congress and senate.

"THE OTHER PARENT"

c/o Robert J. and Marie A. Baker Jr.

4615 Port Tobacco Rd.

Nanjemoy MD 20662

Names and addresses are optional but we will require a city and state so we can forward the letters to the correct politicians. If a name is included it will be held in the strictest confidentiality. All letters and E-Mail we receive will be used only for the purpose of lobbying Congress. Some may be posted on this board if permission is given in writing.

The email address is: rrrrbrt@bellatlantic.net


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To: Billy_bob_bob
Bless your heart.
21 posted on 02/21/2002 9:15:05 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: flada
If you don't bother to learn about the character of your partner and your compatability with your partner prior to bearing children with him/her, then there are consequences for all parties... especially the children.

Would that it were that easy: My parents were married 23 years prior to the events I described above.

23 posted on 02/21/2002 9:17:01 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: Saundra Duffy
Until recipients of welfare and ADC are required to repay the state in a reasonable manner, no justice will exist anywhere.

My sympathies to all who have suffered due to socialist programs and cultural assaults that have undermined the institution of marriage and the security of the family unit.

Children are the future. The 20 year old of 30 years ago has the maturity and self-reliance of an adult of 30-40 today.

Helplessness, dependency and victimhood are the mindsets instilled, policy is sculpted to ensnare all into a formula that assures that you must play, must suck blood just like the others to stay alive.

24 posted on 02/21/2002 9:18:59 AM PST by mindprism.com
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To: Saundra Duffy;snopercod
Karl Marx --- he dreamed up a world where he would remain unemployed, his life's ambition.
25 posted on 02/21/2002 9:19:18 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: flada
Don't knock up women that you don't intend to be married to permanently and you won't have these kinds of problems. Or conversely, don't be knocked up by a man that you don't intend to be married to permanently

Most people don't get married with the intention of it being temporary.

26 posted on 02/21/2002 9:22:54 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Tacis
Wait until you get rid of this wife and get to the point of "mine, yours, and ours."

True story: I worked for a judge several years ago. A divorcing couple was seeking to have the court judicially divide their community assets. They, of course, were ordered to list everything they owned. Included in their list of possessions that they were fighting over: 20 plastic coat hangers; one 50 foot garden hose (green); two 50 gallon garbage cans (one blue; one green); 37 Louis L'Amour Paperbacks; and (here's the real kicker) one five-pound bag of M&M's (plain).

Thank God they didn't have kids.

27 posted on 02/21/2002 9:23:25 AM PST by geaux
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To: GalFromTheBay
My granddaughter was going through her father's garbage and reading his emails - on a spy mission from her mother. The kids need to pretend to be fearful of their father in order to please their mother. The poor kids!
28 posted on 02/21/2002 9:30:57 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
PING for the kids.
29 posted on 02/21/2002 9:32:03 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: GalFromTheBay
One that pays it, but doesn't care.
31 posted on 02/21/2002 9:58:44 AM PST by Malcolm
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To: GalFromTheBay
Good Heavens! I told my son he and I need to write a magazine article about how he survived this nightmare. He's getting married on March 17th. I hope and pray nothing even more horrendous happens between now and then but I put nothing past her. Like I said, Good Heavens!
32 posted on 02/21/2002 10:00:00 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
I was going to write an objection to the What's Worse Than A Dead Beat Dad? headline because my children's dad is dead, which I thought was worse. However, it's been four years since he died and we are at peace with that, and so is he, so I guess some things are worse than a dead dad. The stories on this thread are terrible.
33 posted on 02/21/2002 10:10:17 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Oh, and I don't have any kids, nobody is ever going to call this guy a f*th*r. This is the worst name I could ever think of being called, after listening to my harpie mother go on and on about "your f*th*r this" and "your f*th*r that". Bah. Families are highly overrated.

I hear you, my friend. I've been down the same road.

34 posted on 02/21/2002 10:13:49 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: geaux
With so few worldly posessions, I wonder why they needed two large trash cans?
35 posted on 02/21/2002 10:17:39 AM PST by VoiceOfBruck
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To: Saundra Duffy
A beat dead dad?
36 posted on 02/21/2002 10:18:39 AM PST by Khepera
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To: ValerieUSA
I have heard it said that divorce is worse than death. I am glad you have achieved peace; that is truly a miracle. God bless you.
37 posted on 02/21/2002 10:20:52 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Mr. Jeeves
You guys are killing me. I'm so sorry.
38 posted on 02/21/2002 10:21:37 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Khepera
Now THAT was funny. Thanks for lightening up the load a little.
39 posted on 02/21/2002 10:27:48 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
"Did you know that women can file FALSE report and get a restraining order and the poor Dad is left without a prayer?"

'Screwed' is a more decriptive word.

40 posted on 02/21/2002 10:28:31 AM PST by Rebelbase
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