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"A Betrayal" - Some advice for Bush on campaign-finance reform legislation.
The National Review ^ | February 20, 2002 | National Review Editors

Posted on 02/21/2002 6:22:01 AM PST by rightwing2

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To: concerned about politics
It's an "old bull" strategy. And it makes sense, IMHO. The American people trust him to do the right thing. The risk is energizing the left-wing base, but if Bush plays his cards right, he has a chance.
141 posted on 02/21/2002 12:24:37 PM PST by hchutch
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To: concerned about politics
Bush hasn't signed it. Get ahold of yourself man!!! Get a grip!!!

I'm sorry, but the trial balloons have been aloft and Bush's people are making noises like he thinking of signing it.

IF HE SIGNS IT - IT BECOMES LAW !

WHAT TIME EXACTLY SHOULD WE GET OUR HACKLES UP IF NOT NOW ?

Pragmatism is right OUT when folks are even talking about curtailing our God given right to free speech.

Or is it O.K. with you if it's just the bad liberals who are muzzled ? Wake up man.

142 posted on 02/21/2002 12:25:33 PM PST by MassExodus
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To: concerned about politics
There IS NO betrayal. Bush hasn't even seen the damn thing yet! At this point, he is an innocent man!!

You're wrong, the man has the bully -pulpit.

If he isn't thinking of signing it, he should be explaining it to America NOW that it is un-Constitutional!

He's not stupid, so he's not going to wait untill it's on his desk - if he WASN'T thinking of signing it.

143 posted on 02/21/2002 12:28:34 PM PST by MassExodus
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To: MassExodus
I REALLY hope I'm wrong here, but I'm afraid for our Republic and my childrens heritage.
144 posted on 02/21/2002 12:29:38 PM PST by MassExodus
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To: Lazamataz
This will have much more impact than you imagine

So why can't people just contribute to the politician or the party instead of the interest groups? Is there some advantage to donating to the interest groups?

145 posted on 02/21/2002 12:32:15 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: MassExodus
WHAT TIME EXACTLY SHOULD WE GET OUR HACKLES UP IF NOT NOW ?

Well, go ahead. But it won't change one hair on your head to a different color. Right now, it's the Senators we should be after.

If he isn't thinking of signing it, he should be explaining it to America NOW that it is un-Constitutional!

Ummmm.....because he's busy with work overseas? We're fighting a war?

146 posted on 02/21/2002 12:37:38 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: eaglebeak
Is there some advantage to donating to the interest groups?

Yes. They lobby for us on specific issues. NRA, RTL, ...etc.

147 posted on 02/21/2002 12:39:04 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: eaglebeak
So why can't people just contribute to the politician or the party instead of the interest groups? Is there some advantage to donating to the interest groups?

Yes. Coordination and impact.

148 posted on 02/21/2002 12:40:25 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: concerned about politics
They can continue lobbying. They can continue to let their members know how a politician feels about their causes. Then people can contribute accordingly.
149 posted on 02/21/2002 12:46:36 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: concerned about politics
Ummmm.....because he's busy with work overseas? We're fighting a war?

So what ?

So he NOT supposed to watch the home front against the Socialists bent on our destruction?

Thats weak.

150 posted on 02/21/2002 12:47:38 PM PST by MassExodus
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To: MassExodus
ABC this week....

GEORGE WILL: In which case, would you veto the McCain-Feingold bill, or the Shays-Meehan bill?

GEORGE BUSH: That’s an interesting question. I — I — yes I would.

151 posted on 02/21/2002 12:58:03 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
ONE MORE TIME....Asked point-blank on ABC News’s This Week on January 23, 2000 whether he would veto McCain-Feingold or Shays-Meehan, Bush said he would.
152 posted on 02/21/2002 1:05:25 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: MassExodus
"If Bush signs "C F R" as it is written, he will have declared himself an enemy of the Constitution and therefore, would need to be impeached."

While I'm not prepared to jump on the "IMPEACH DUBYUH" Bandwagon just yet, I fully understand the anger arising from our POTUS signing--and Congress writing--legislation that is so obviously un-Constitutional with the expectation--or hope--that the SCOTUS will fix it. That's why I still expect Dubyuh to veto it...signing it is below him, IMHO.

In the meantime, keep burning up the phone lines!!

FReegards...MUD

153 posted on 02/21/2002 1:20:18 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: rightwing2
PLEASE call the WH, Freepers. The darn line is busy half the time....hopefully with people opposed to this legislation.
154 posted on 02/21/2002 1:22:30 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Lazamataz
tell the WH that....I told them I knew of many Repubs who will not vote for him if he signs this. I very well may not either if he signs....this is not a small issue.
155 posted on 02/21/2002 1:23:46 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: 3D-JOY
if he does that I could still support him, though I would be disappointed he did not just veto the dang thing.
156 posted on 02/21/2002 1:25:31 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: rightwing2

157 posted on 02/21/2002 3:17:41 PM PST by fivetoes
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To: concerned about politics
GEORGE BUSH: That’s an interesting question. I — I — yes I would.

Please oh please oh please I hope you're right and that I'm an overblown cynic.

I would love to be wrong about this.

But here's the thing -

WHY ISN'T HE TAKING THE LEAD NOW AND EXPLAINING THE UN-CONSTITUTIONALITY
OF THIS WHILE HE HAS THE HIGH APPROVAL RATINGS AND BEFORE HE HAS TO VETO THE BILL ?

You can't tell me it is because he's "so busy" with other things that he's not had time to address this.

Of course he COULD be doing the really great thing, which would be planning to veto the Communist Manifesto # 2 outright

in their face and THEN explain to the Nation what a rotten thing Congress had served up to him - THAT would be better than watching my Patriots win the Superbowl !!!

158 posted on 02/22/2002 5:08:11 AM PST by MassExodus
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To: MassExodus, sonofliberty2
If Bush signs that un-Constitutional piece of garbage I won't just NOT vote for a Republican again, I will do everything in my power to defeat them ( us ) in the feature.

If you did that, it would be a self-defeating exercise. If you did not vote for Bush that would make sense. I haven't decided whether to vote for him in 2004 or not. However, to not vote for Republicans when as a party they are fairly united in opposing this unconstitutional First Amendment violating Democrat Incumbent Protection Bill would be entirely unfair. You can't blame the Republican Party for the unconstitutional actions and bad policy decisions of one man even if that man is the President of the United States. Retaking control of the Republican Party for the conservatives is the only hope for constitutionalists to return this country to being a Godly nation.
159 posted on 02/22/2002 6:42:59 AM PST by rightwing2
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To: swampfox98, sonofliberty2, scholastic
How sad that the Republican party is so weak. Even in victory they are defeated by the Dems.

Yes, how very sad that at the very moment when the House Democratic Caucus is advising their members to run as me-too Republicans and the Republicans are leading on all of the top three issues and are leading in the generic Congressional matchups and amazingly leading by 5% in voter identification, their President is going to shoot them in both knees and cripple them so that they will never be able to win a majority in the House or Senate ever again!! True, this Democrat Incumbent Protection Bill will increase the prospects for Bush being re-elected in 2004 by its increase of individual hard money caps, but at what cost??--Speaker Gephardt in 2004 and the permanent loss of the US Senate which the GOP has a good chance of retaking in this year's election? However, I really do not see any downside if Bush were to reverse course and veto this unconstitutional legislation. Campaign finance is just not an issue that resonates with the American people.
160 posted on 02/22/2002 7:09:37 AM PST by rightwing2
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