[f.Christian]

True will(Christian) vs. dumb--no will(liberal/libertarainism) is what I was thinking about...

in realatarian doctrine there is no free anything except dumb-trouble-stupid!

[FormerLib]

in realatarian doctrine...

Hmmm, never heard that one before. Some folks come up with more new '-ian's that the liberals can come up with 'ism's!