[rwfromkansas]

Correct. After all, if he is the savior of all men, he died in vain since most reject him. I believe he is the savior of his people, a group God chose from before the world, to save.

[FormerLib]

Interesting new faith you've developed. Quite a stretch from Christianity though.

[FormerLib]

After all, if he is the savior of all men, he died in vain since most reject him.

By the way, if your theory were true, then those who reject Him may very well be correct in doing so since He would reject them regardless of what was in their hearts.

A simple reading of the tale of the Canaanite women shows just how wrong all of this is. Take the Bible as a complete work, not just filler in between the passages you underline, and you'll discover there is salvation for all who would follow Him.

Guess we'll have to wait until the Final Judgement to see if anyone shows up who isn't on your list.

[Jerry_M]

It is not necessary to deny "free-will" in order to believe in Biblical predestination. It is only when one thinks that man has a greater "free-will" than that possessed by God that one gets in trouble.

All men are free to do exactly as they want, just as God is free to do exactly what He wants.

Many non-predestinarians insist that "free-will" means that you will do that which you don't want to do, but we know better.