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To: patriot31u
you said that the gov't was going after the relatives of the Jap invaders, then you said they went after every Jap?

I never said the government was going after just the relatives. I said the reason that they all had to be interned was because it was their people that attacked. Relatives included. It's impossible to know who had relatives and friends and who didn't.

So which is it a select crowd or all?

All.

I did not say the founding fathers were immoral. I said that on the subject of slavery they were immoral as in used immoral judgement.

They did not use immoral judgment. They compromised, which is what you do in a Constitutional Republic.

So explain to me again that by saying the founding fathers were immoral on the subject of slavery, how that translates into not having any respect for the Constitution?

So you only like parts of it? That means you don't respect it.

So by your logic you are direspecting the Declaration of Independece by condoning the comprimise of people's inalienalbe rights.

The Declaration of Independence is a declaration, not a law. The Constitution is the law.

Does this mean by our founding father comprimising these rights that they too had no respect for the Declaration of Independece?

The Declaration of Independence is a delclaration of separation on the principles therein. The Constitution was the law that came after the separation. Some of the lawmakers couldn't get all they wanted, that doesn't mean they were immoral.

OK so now we again did not lock up all Japs just the ones on the west coast. The ones on the east coast near the nation's capitol we just let run free. Why would we not round up the ones near the nation's capitol if we were worried about sabotage?

The invasion was expected to be in California.

I mean isn't that a great place to do sabotage, considering the amount of intellegence that runs through a nations capitol during war time?

There wasn't much they could do without the help of their invading friends.

Also the story now is just so I'm straight is that it was not impractical to lock up Germans, just impractical to lock up all of them?

Yep. The world runs on what's possible, not what's impossible.

If there was no massive round-up of Japs then how did we get them to the camps?

Almost all were rounded up on the west coast. There are more states than just California. Why are you debating me if you don't even know the specifics of what happened and what the Constitution says?

Did they just show up and say "here I am lock me up please"? Surely we had to round them up didn't we? Exactly!

California is only one state. Not all Japs were rounded up.

Union generals detained people on suspiscion not skin color.

Yep, because suspicion was all they had. They couldn't differentiate between a loyalist and a southern sympathizer by skin color.

Now wait a minute, you said for me to ask my questions and you will answer. So why didn't you tell me about the people in modern America 2002 who are setting up Gas chambers and killing other races?

I never said there are people setting up gas chambers now.

I have not heard about this new epidemic in America today.

Where did I say there were gas chambers being set up?

So which are you prejudice or racist?

Everyone is prejudiced. Birds of a feather flock together. Drive around and you'll see.

Actually yes, the white people are the minority in my neighborhood. We live near the Latin buisness district and have many Latin people, Black people, and Arabs in our area (well at least until the gov't agrees with you and comes to round them up. Hopefully they don't mistake some of the Latin folk for Arab). We have our share of whites too.

But there is not an overwhelming majority of one kind.

Why wouldn't I want to live in Harlem, Chinatown, or the Arab community in Detroit, aren't we all Americans when you get right down to it?

Show me proof that you've moved to a slash-American community and I'll believe you're not prejudiced.

What do mean priests and rockstars are different and don't hang out? Are you saying that some rockstars don't go to church or pray? I thought we were all created equal? Are you trying to disrespect the Declaration of Independence again?

Are you saying that Kiss hangs out with Pat Robertson all the time?

I asked you who said American POW's were not tortured? I didn't ask about policies; and who in the hell in this nation would condone our POW's being tortured? So if one had nothing to do with the other why did you ping me to that thread?

We've been discussing this for a month now, I figured you were interested in this subject.

281 posted on 04/05/2002 7:46:04 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Oh you most certainly did say that. You said: The '40s generation deemed a possible Japanese invasion of California a good enough reason to hold the relatives of those possible invaders for the duration of the war.

Then down here you say all again but then you said just the ones on the west coast. Since you didn't answer my question I'll ask again. Did we just let Jap terrorists run around in our nation's capitol with the opportunity to do sabotage?

In a constitutional republic you comprimise people's inalienable rights that are guaranteed to them? Ok so you don't have any respect for the Declaration of Independence because it's not a law? Are you saying it means nothing, that it is worthless?

Oh I know what happened but it is quite obvious you are a little hazzy on the details. First you say we rounded up all Japs and no Germans, then we rounded up only the Jap relatives, then we again rounded up all the Japs again, then we only rounded up those on the west coast, and now rounded up Germans and Italians, even though it was impractical, then there was no round-up of Japs (I guess they just came willingly), then there was a round-up of the Japs. Back and forth and back again, the fun never stops.

Ohh new twist now only almost all were rounded up on the west coast. So we only got some, not all on the west coast?

I asked you: Are you telling me that America was not a more racist country in the 40's then it is today?

You responded:I don't remember gas chambers being set up to kill other races, so I would say that we weren't more racist.

So if we weren't more racist in the 40's because they weren't setting up gas chambers, then where in America today are we setting up gas chambers and killing other races, since that is what makes us a more racist country today?

Well since I don't live in New York, near any Chinatown, or Detroit how can I have been in a position to live there? I just told you I live in the Latin Buisness District. You need proof of residence to say whether someone is prejudice or not?

See you don't answer the question, you only talk about two specifics. I will ask again, are you saying that some rockstars do not pray or attend a church? I thought you said ask any question and you will answer? Why all the tap-dancing?

We are discussing American intern camps, not Jap POW camps. I don't think there is an American alive who thinks what the Japs did to Americans was right (except maybe Jane Fonda).

299 posted on 04/05/2002 9:34:38 AM PST by patriot31u
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