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To: patriot31u
No using new ideas to support your statement is done during long conversations, not changing your statements altogether.

What statement did I change?

So those citizens that were locked up and had relatives fighting for the United States, also had relatives fighting for the Japs?

I'm sure that several did, yes. Most had relatives in Japan and no relatives fighting for the U.S.

Is that the new story? Ok so now we are back to holding everyone again?

I never said not to hold everyone.

Now show me where in my statement that you responded to did I say I have no respect for the constitution?

You said the founding fathers were not moral. Do you often do what immoral people tell you to do?

I didn't even use the word Constitution.

They wrote it.

So it was a moral thing to have slaves and disregard the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for the sake of comprimise?

It was a moral thing to form this country. Not every problem in the world can be solved by a group of about twenty men.

OK so now even though on post 233 you said that locking up Germans was impractical because there was to many, that the Germans were in fact locked up like the Japs? Which is it were they locked up or weren't they?

I said it was impractical to lock them all up. Not all Japs were locked up either, just all the west coast ones, where we expected an invasion.

No sir, southeren loyalists were released during the war after swearing an oath of allegience, and there was no massive round-up of all southerners.

There was no round-up of all Japs either. Different wars call for different techniques.

They were arrested at the order of a union commander who was suspicious of someone, not just because they were from the south.

Exactly. See there is precedence to detain people on suspicion.

Well this is news to me, who is setting up Gas chambers here in 2002 America and killing people of the other race? So then tell me how you decide between a person who is racist and one who is prejudiced?

Racists get violent with people of other races. 99% of the rest of the people on the planet are just prejudiced.

I'm glad you asked that, cause my wife is Mexican-American, I am full-blooded German, my neighbors to my left are also Mexican-American, my neighbors across the street are African-American, and my neighbors to the right are Irish.

Yes, I have neighbors who aren't white also. My next door neighbor was an Iranian (he moved), my best friend in my home town was black and he lived just down the street. I prefer the majority to be as I, though. So are whites a minority in your whole neighborhood though? Would you consider living in Chinatown, or Harlem, or the Arab community in Detroit?

But all my neighbors and family are first and foremost Americans. I thought we were all Americans no matter color, race, or religion?

We're different. We have different tastes. If everyone is the same, why do people of all races tend to congegrate with their own kind?

Are you saying that we are different classes of Americans depending on our color?

No, not different classes, you're trying to put words in my mouth. Rock stars don't hang out with preachers, it doesn't mean they're different classes.

That is kind of racist, or is it predjudiced?

I didn't say they were different classes, you did.

Who said the Americans were not tortured in the Japanese POW camps?

It wasn't policy. People are raped and murdered everywhere every day now also, it doesn't mean that we as a nation condone it.

That is a well documented piece of history. But what exactly is the relation to Japanese-Americans being locked up? Some of those Jap-Americans had relatives in those Japanese POW camps.

That has no bearing on the fact there were Japanese sympathizers in the Japanese-American community.

270 posted on 04/04/2002 7:00:48 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
you said that the gov't was going after the relatives of the Jap invaders, then you said they went after every Jap? So which is it a select crowd or all? I did not say the founding fathers were immoral. I said that on the subject of slavery they were immoral as in used immoral judgement. So explain to me again that by saying the founding fathers were immoral on the subject of slavery, how that translates into not having any respect for the Constitution? So by your logic you are direspecting the Declaration of Independece by condoning the comprimise of people's inalienalbe rights. Does this mean by our founding father comprimising these rights that they too had no respect for the Declaration of Independece?

OK so now we again did not lock up all Japs just the ones on the west coast. The ones on the east coast near the nation's capitol we just let run free. Why would we not round up the ones near the nation's capitol if we were worried about sabotage? I mean isn't that a great place to do sabotage, considering the amount of intellegence that runs through a nations capitol during war time? Also the story now is just so I'm straight is that it was not impractical to lock up Germans, just impractical to lock up all of them?

If there was no massive round-up of Japs then how did we get them to the camps? Did they just show up and say "here I am lock me up please"? Surely we had to round them up didn't we? Exactly! Union generals detained people on suspiscion not skin color.

Now wait a minute, you said for me to ask my questions and you will answer. So why didn't you tell me about the people in modern America 2002 who are setting up Gas chambers and killing other races? I have not heard about this new epidemic in America today.

So which are you prejudice or racist?

Actually yes, the white people are the minority in my neighborhood. We live near the Latin buisness district and have many Latin people, Black people, and Arabs in our area (well at least until the gov't agrees with you and comes to round them up. Hopefully they don't mistake some of the Latin folk for Arab). We have our share of whites too.

Why wouldn't I want to live in Harlem, Chinatown, or the Arab community in Detroit, aren't we all Americans when you get right down to it? What do mean priests and rockstars are different and don't hang out? Are you saying that some rockstars don't go to church or pray? I thought we were all created equal? Are you trying to disrespect the Declaration of Independence again?

I asked you who said American POW's were not tortured? I didn't ask about policies; and who in the hell in this nation would condone our POW's being tortured? So if one had nothing to do with the other why did you ping me to that thread?

275 posted on 04/04/2002 9:13:05 PM PST by patriot31u
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