[#3Fan]

Yeah OK so now the forefathers were against slavery but they condoned it to comprimise, yes some were against it but that didn't help much did it. OK so comprimising someone's liberty is OK even though it is one of our inalienable rights.

I guess the founding fathers just weren't as moral and sophisticated as you.

You are profiling gender now as well as race. I am a male and have debated with both genders, and see no difference.

You reminded me of my mom, I guess. LOL I don't have to feel guilty about getting you worked up now. :^)

You can play that tactic till your blue in the face. You try to say I'm out of control and losing my temper to sway the arguement.

You go through periods of namecalling, and then stop, and then do it again. It looked as if you were having a hard time.

Trust me if I lose my temper I will most likely get kicked off of FR. It takes alot more than a racist like you to get to me.

Are you going to profile your deportees? If so, then according to your definition, you're a racist too.

All you have to say is rubbish. So now you are not debating your opinions anymore you are debating the Constitution. So now the story is our system is to not care about minority opinions.

If we didn't care about the minority, we'd be a democracy. Because we care about minority opinion, we're a constitutional republic.

So let me get this straight our Constitution says that we should lock people up based on the color of their skin even though they are American citizens, if they are a minority race we should say their opinion counts to save face but ignore it anyway, and comprimise peoples inalienable rights for their own good?

The Constitution allows the Congress to hold people without charges, in cases of rebellion or invasion specifically, for the the public safety. The '40s generation deemed a possible Japanese invasion of California a good enough reason to hold the relatives of those possible invaders for the duration of the war. I think they were right. You would've done the same but you think they were wrong. LOL

You still trying to turn that race card? Let me help since this is above your head. If this country is attacked I don't care if you are German, Irish, Mexican, Canadian, French, Italian, African, Arab, Russian, Black, White, Red, Blue, Yellow, Green, or Pink with Lavender polka-dots. If you don't hold citizen status or permanent resident status in our country you will have to leave or deal with being detained for questioning and the checking of your background.

So if nationals from a country like El Salvadore, and their sympathizing American relatives attack our border guards you're going to kick out every German student, every doctor from India, every engineer from Japan, everybody? That seems like a lot of work for a problem that racial/national profiling could solve easily and in a hurry. It would be safer to concentrate on the hispanics in border states because it would be a lot faster.

That is not racial profiling it is status profiling. So if that means I'm a.... I don't know statuscist then I guess you can call me that if thats even a word. So lets see which way you spin this time.

That is a hell of a lot of work, disrupting people's lives that obviously had nothing to do with the current problem. Your system deems much more "cruelty" necessary than mine does. Life isn't a bed of roses. Sometimes, events will force a person to be put in a position that most others will not have to face. This notion that if one suffers then all should suffer doesn't make much sense to me and looks like that it would just end up with everyone continually suffering because there is always going to be someone somewhere in a compromising position.

I've been consistant. Show me where I haven't.

[patriot31u]

Everyone hang on were changing directions again. So now the story is that you don't think my way is good because it disrupts lives that had nothing to do with what happened. Remind me again how many of the family members locked up while their loved ones were dying for the country were flying those zeros and dive bombers at Pearl Harbor. Also now you say that the gov't only deemed it neccesary to hold the relatives of possible attackers. What about those that were held that were born here and had no family whatsoever in Japan? The forefathers that condoned slavery and the forefathers that comprimised a man's liberty even though the Declaration of Independece says it is one of our inalienable rights were not moral on the issue of slavery. Are you saying that everything our forefathers do should never be questioned? They were great men who did great things, but are you telling me they were some sort of saints that never made mistakes? Yeah and racial profiling is better because you don't want to do any work. Maybe if the govt agencies had done their work in the first place their would be no Sep. 11th. Why focus on only that group? Germans and Japs were allies, no doubt some of the German sabotage done on American soil was to help the Japs also. OSS sabotage in Germany was done for our allies as much as it was done for us. One of the OSS missions was to sabotage the German rocket program to stop them from attacking the UK as well as the US. What about mister Johnny Taliban? He's not an Arab but he sure loves them for some reason. Are you telling me that America was not a more racist country in the 40's then it is today? What about the Civil War? Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and they did not round up all those southeren loyalists in the north. They even let prisoners go after swearing an oath of allegience to the US. That same allegience those American citizens in the 40's swore to. So why the internment camps then? Battles were fought on American soil and had greater risks of sabotage than WWII.