War is hell.
Sounds like a dictatorship, not a democratic govt using sound reasoning.
So you don't respect the Constitution for making this provision?
Suspending habeas corpus is well within the right of the govt. But when our govt is entrusted with those powers, we expect them to use sound judgement when using them.
They did.
The only requirement you had to meet to become a guest of FDR's camp site is to be a Jap.
Yep. And as we've seen with Islamic-Americans, that's a very good reason. Perhaps if we would have done something in 1993 after the first attack like a massive internment of Arabs along with a comprehensive interrogation to see who was a sympathizer and who wasn't, 3000 lives would have been saved.
Your skin color made you a potential terrorist.
Yes it does.
Not your record, or status in the country.
The terrorists who did this stunt had perfect records with this country.
You obviously do not understand the difference between opinion and fact. You obviously are not going to or cannot answer my questions.
Ask your questions. You want my answers. Some of my answers are based on my opinion. Do you go through life avoiding all conversations that involve your opinion?
You cannot produce one quote of mine to back up your claims.
You just made another. You said that locking up innocents is more like a dictatorship. Were the founding fathers dictators?
I do know what liberalism is and you question my patriotism because I don't use it for an excuse everytime I can't produce original thoughts about events, like you.
Can't produce original thoughts? What are you talking about? A thought is a thought. Your thoughts aren't original either. Do you think that you're the first to think that internment is wrong?
Are you saying that there was no fear in America back then.
I don't fear terrorists. But I damn sure woiuld like to intern all that there is in America. I'm sure that they felt the same way in 1941. How many feared Japs?...probably not very many, but for the sake of their country, internment was best.
I know a few WWII vets and Pearl Harbor vets that will beg to differ with you.
A soldier facing fire will face fear. An American citizen in North America would feel more of a sense of doing what's smart than acting out of fear.
Again, tap dancing around questions. You are either supportive of the govt apoligizing or you are against them apoligizing, hence you either condone or condemn.
I condemn no one for making apologies to Japanese-Americans. I don't think of every issue in extreme terms. Every president in history has done things that I would disagree with, I'm sure. That doesn't mean I condemn them for the things they did that I disagree with. Some things are worthy of condemnation though, like selling MIRV technology to the Chinese for campaign cash.
So which is it?
I don't condemn Reagan for making apologies to Japanese-Americans. It's not something I would have done though, except maybe for the reparations part.
This sorry excuse of Liberalism is the worst I have ever seen.
You're condemning me for saying that liberalism causes us not to invoke suspension of Habeas Corpus in times of invasion? You really think of everything in extreme terms, don't you? Funny how you're so direct on your feelings of my reasoning on the direction of this country but get wishy-washy on the question of what you would have done personally if you were there in 1941.
The country is more liberal, but that is no excuse for your reasoning.
Based on your judgment. The heroic generation of 1941 agrees with me, and I'll take their judgment over yours on this issue.
Conservatives in the 40's were saying the country was more liberal than the 30's.
Conservatives in the '40s? Who were these people? Republicans were conservative in the '40s? Democrats were conservative in the '40s? One wasn't much more conservative than the other, were they, on questions of habeas corpus and such? Now Dems were more into financial liberalism, but on social liberalism, I'm not sure. If you have examples of conservative social philosophy as opposed to liberal social philosophy in 1941, and who was who, I'd like to read up on it. (Don't have a cow. Every time I ask you a question, you have a cow. LOL)
So if the country getting more liberal leads us to give reparations, why haven't we given reparations to slaves yet?
Slaves are dead, too late for reparations. They should've received reasonable reparations right after 1865, while they were still alive, if it were possible for the government or guilty parties to give them. This world runs on practicality though, not idealism.
Mothers and Fathers of soldiers fighting overseas against the Japs were held as prisoners. Yeah their son is risking his life for the country, but we better lock them up anyway just in case. Sounds like a dictatorship, not a democratic govt using sound reasoning.
That is the whole statement that you saw fit to cut up for your views. So no I do not feel the Constitution is wrong for having that provision. However; it is expected to be used with proper judgement. Your view that the govt did that is a mere opinion. Your statement that War is hell is ridiculous. Other than Pearl Harbor what battle during WWII took place on American soil.
Your skin color made you a potential terrorist. Yes it does.
Well I guess bones was right you do make racist statements. They were not citizens and one (probaply more) had an expired visa but was allowed to stay. If you are not a citizen you are not protected under any American laws, and so therefore if all non-citizens are either deported or put in interm camps for questioning I see no problem with that.
I have asked questions and you have not answered. Tap dance around this all day long it still does not change this. Of course I argue on opinion, that is how this whole thing got started. But you don't have any facts at all to prove your point. Again another failure to answer a question. You cannot produce a quote. You try again to use the one above that you cut just to fit your point of view.
Of course I can't say for sure what I would of done. It's called being realistic. No one can say for sure. Times were different, you can't feel the emotionalism the way it was felt then. But I can say for sure that I would of not been for the locking up of American citizens based only on the color of their skin.
Ohh ok so you wont say you are sorry but you will give them money. That makes total sense. Why even give them money if you did nothing wrong? You have talked to all those in the 1941 generation? You have all their views, every last one of them? Whatever, I volunteer at the Veterans home here and help out at the VFW and about 75% of those men I talk to that fought in the war say they feel that locking up those Japs that were citizens, especially those that had sons, fathers, and husbands in the war was wrong. As far as the non-citizens go they say the same; They have no protection under our laws.
OK so if we had all these conservatives back in the 40's then why all the liberalism now. Shouldn't we all still be conservative, both Democrat and Republican. There you go again with that lame tactic. It is getting quite old already, try something else. "Don't have a cow" what are you in high school?
Exactly, so what happened to liberalism back then to get the slaves their reparations. It's too late for them now but why didn't they get it back then.