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If you believe such, then how can you conclude that an obviously racist and socialist policy is justifiable?

Where does God's word say that a country is not allowed to protect itself?

No national emergency is worth imprisoning 100,000+ innocents and absolutely killing our production as a result.

Killing our production? I was under the impression that a big reason for our stomping of the Japanese and German respective arses was due to our better industrial capability of producing weapons of war.

That's why most Hawaii Japanese Americans were not incarcerated.

And Hawaii took the most damage.

There is no evidence to support your allegation of disloyalty among the hundreds of thousands of japanese americans in Hawaii throughout the duration of the second world war.

Except that little Pearl Harbor deal. You don't think they had intelligence from moles? You are naive.

Also, your interpretation of the founding fathers not supporting a class based society reflects your SOCIALIST rhetoric and spin. Nice try!

So you're saying the founding father tried to implement a class-based society?

The founding fathers of this great nation WERE quite aware of the classes and economic power of a Adam Smith capitalistic society.

So what are you, a monarchist? Japan was a manarchy, is that why you're so offended of how we protected ourselves from free roaming saboteurs in the 40's, unlike now?

It is equally unfortunate that liberal democrats still don conservative coats, while their liberal fangs drip the blood of innocent Americans.

Looks to me like people who pretend to be Americans but hate America are the ones with the most blood on their hands. I guess you've already forgotten 9-11.

Classless society is for socialists (which is what you really are).

So what class do you consider yourself to be in? I bet you want to return to slavery, if you think America should recognize class.

And how about it? Do you think Islamic-Americans are as loyal as all other slash-Americans?

184 posted on 03/07/2002 11:50:02 AM PST by #3Fan
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I said: If you believe such, then how can you conclude that an obviously racist and socialist policy is justifiable?
He says: Where does God's word say that a country is not allowed to protect itself?
response: What the heck are you talking about? Are you attempting to equate racism and self-preservation? If so, you are remarkably deluded! In fact, Christ intentionally ministers to non-Jews because he's proving a point in many passages. He believes that people need to get out of their shell-like communities and be good samaritans. Perhaps you should heed some of those thoughts?

I said: No national emergency is worth imprisoning 100,000+ innocents and absolutely killing our production as a result.
He says: Killing our production? I was under the impression that a big reason for our stomping of the Japanese and German respective arses was due to our better industrial capability of producing weapons of war.
Response: There you go again! Demogogic to the last (you must write for Pravda!). The point was that Japanese Americans were making massive contributions to the California and Hawaiian economy. They couldn't move the Japanese from Hawaii because of the impact on Hawaiian life. However, racists did just this maneuver in California!
Guess who took over the politics and economics?
Duh...Democrats?...GEEE...daauahght!

I said: That's why most Hawaii Japanese Americans were not incarcerated.
He says: And Hawaii took the most damage.
Response: The economic damage to the communities in California were MUCH worse than in Hawaii. So, PROVE your point with some gov't documents and facts. I know you can't... because you're totally incorrect in your statement.
In fact, the Hawaiian state economy may have benefitted from the war because massive War Department development in the Hawaiian Islands created transportation, power, and governmental infrastructure which was previously lacking. California, on the other hand, had massive farms that were dry for years because the farming was handled by Japanese American laborers. In addition, many fishing trawlers were confiscated by the government, sold to looters, and killed the livelihood of many. Only a socialist would claim that stealing farms is the American way.

I said: There is no evidence to support your allegation of disloyalty among the hundreds of thousands of japanese americans in Hawaii throughout the duration of the second world war.
He says: Except that little Pearl Harbor deal. You don't think they had intelligence from moles? You are naive.
Response: No, you simply refuse to face the fact that NO Japanese in America were ever charged with treason or even "unamerican" activities. The closest such legal proceedings ever came to such charges was the unlawful and unethical attempts to blackmail draft resisters in several of the concentration camps. These draft resisters, called "no-no" boys, were given ridiculous questionnaires which couldn't be answered positively because of the wording of the questions (not because of any disloyalty to our nation)!
Far from naive, if such moles existed, they have never surfaced nor were they members of the Japanese American community. One wonders if they were Russians. After all, it was the Russians who wanted revenge on the Japanese for the Russian losses during the Russo-Japanese War just 30 years before. Shall we discuss Port Arthur and the Russo-Japanese War? But, we digress. After all, you are more interested in tar-and-feathering an entire community of peaceful Americans instead of learning the TRUTH and seeing the TRUTH in the PROVABLE facts that we state.

You, on the other hand, are nothing but a rumor-mongering and hear-saying repeating liberal chameleon. You are active on other boards disrupting conversations and threads there also. So, what else is new in your life? Gone to a church service lately?

I said: Also, your interpretation of the founding fathers not supporting a class based society reflects your SOCIALIST rhetoric and spin. Nice try!
He says: So you're saying the founding father tried to implement a class-based society?
Response: It sure wasn't MARXISM! Sorry to disappoint you East-wind blowing and Red-China lovers! Light up a Havana Fidel! Hamilton, Jefferson, and the rest were a bunch of capitalistic entrepreneurs! Imagine that?

I said: The founding fathers of this great nation WERE quite aware of the classes and economic power of a Adam Smith capitalistic society.
He says: So what are you, a monarchist?
Response: Huh? How is it that your brain translates my comment into support for monarchy?

Tell me, where did you get your college degree? Moscow or Beijing?

He says: Japan was a manarchy, is that why you're so offended of how we protected ourselves from free roaming saboteurs in the 40's, unlike now?
Response: Nice try Commie! Japan is not a monarchy. It's a democratically elected government. Something Red China fails to be.
You are also incorrect in your analysis of the Japanese government in the 1930's. Japan was NOT run by the Emperor. It was primarily run by military war lords who were primarily Naval officers. There is a 300 year struggle for power between military commanders/daimyo's in Japan and the Emperor's leadership (which is primarily spiritual and not political).

The problem with FDR is that he had 12 years to resolve the conflict in Asia. But, like Bill Clinton, he failed to lead in both Europe and Asia. And, just like Bill Clinton, the following Republican Administrations have had to clean up the mess left behind!

I said: It is equally unfortunate that liberal democrats still don conservative coats, while their liberal fangs drip the blood of innocent Americans.
He says: Looks to me like people who pretend to be Americans but hate America are the ones with the most blood on their hands. I guess you've already forgotten 9-11.
Response: Do you actually believe the drivel you write? What an offensive and nonsensical bunch of garbage. What do you do to protect this nation's families from terrorism? Bore the terrorists to death with your political hate speech?

I said: Classless society is for socialists (which is what you really are).
He says: So what class do you consider yourself to be in? I bet you want to return to slavery, if you think America should recognize class.
Response: We profoundly note the lack of denial regarding our allegation that you are a socialist posing on this board. As we said before... YOU ARE A SOCIALIST!

He says: And how about it? Do you think Islamic-Americans are as loyal as all other slash-Americans?
Response: Yes. There is no judging loyalty by ethnicity. But, socialists like you have been trying to race bait our nation down the drain. I will not hate my friends who are Arab, Syrian, Iranian, Egyptian, Lebanese, Persian, or any other -ian ... including Chinese and Korean and Japanese.

But, then again, race baiting and hate mongering is YOUR tactic, isn't it? Where do you write from? Beijing, Havana, or Oakland?

185 posted on 03/07/2002 10:01:01 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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