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To: VadeRetro
And here's something else on point, which I posted back in November of 1999:
I guess another problem we have with creationoids is their difficulty with inductive reasoning, which is a major tool of scientific thinking. Theology is a glorious example of deductive reasoning: doctrines handed down from on high, alleged to be universally applicable, and therefore the faithful must fit everything into those doctrines. And if the doctrines fail, they are lost, as there is no way they know of to develop new ideas.

Inductive reasoning, on the other hand, involves beginning with observed particulars, and reasoning from these data to a general proposition, which might then become a theory. The theory (such as Darwin's work) is thereafter used as a starting point as in deductive reasoning, but it is always subject to being contradicted if some future observation doesn't fit. Then, as science-minded people, we go "back to the drawing board" to develop a better theory. But creationoids don't know how to do this. They never developed their doctrines. They merely "received" them.

In theology, it's always deductive reasoning. Thus, doctrine (such as Genesis) must always carry the day, and any data which contradicts the doctrine must be ignored, or suppressed, or perhaps worse. If Genesis is wrong, their doctrines collapse and there is no way to solve any problem, at least not until some revelation provides new doctrine.

And this, perhaps, is the problem with some of these creationoids. Deductive reasoning is all they've ever been exposed to; it's all they know, and when presented with the methods of science, they just haven't a clue as to what we're talking about.


583 posted on 02/23/2002 4:02:17 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
I have to disagree with this take. Especially in light of searching for origin of life theories. We use both inductive and deductive reasoning. We move from the general to the particular and back to the general. Together they work to build a body of knowledge which leads ever closer to truth.
584 posted on 02/23/2002 4:07:48 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: PatrickHenry
. . . their difficulty with inductive reasoning . . .

Interpolation, extrapolation, and imagination are all TOOLS OF THE DEVIL!

"Inductive" = "Seductive" = The Serpent and Eve!

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585 posted on 02/23/2002 4:08:21 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Fly-specking? Actually, I see science as a problem-solving endeavor. Problems arise out of a context of back-ground knowledge. A theory is invented as a plausible explanation. The best theory is the one with the most explanatory power and the fewest assumptions. Testable hypotheses are deduced from the theory. Experimental results can falsify but never fully prove a theory.
586 posted on 02/23/2002 4:22:55 PM PST by Nebullis
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