[Gelato]

It is important how we frame the debate...and be assured, this debate is about simple freedom.

Absolutely right. Although some might think "freedom" is just a slogan, it's a fundamental right that we must defend.

BTW, isn't it a little strange that the push for CFR has come almost exclusively by the politicians?

[Symix]

This Ford guy is from a new generation - tough as nail, able to spin like mad, no one knows what he really stands for - not the totally disproved communist values of course.

It looked to me that Keyes and Ford were measuring each other up - their real fights are all in the future...