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Pairs judging under scrutiny
MSNBC ^ | 2/12/2002

Posted on 02/12/2002 12:05:56 PM PST by Utah Girl

David Pelletier tries to console partner Jamie Sale after their scores were posted following their performance in the pairs free skate Monday night. The Canadian pair won the silver medal.

When the marks flashed and the boos rained down, David Pelletier buried his face in his hands and Jamie Sale's eyes filled with tears. There was no easy way to explain how they could have looked so magical, yet come away with silver.

IF ONLY THEY'D MADE some mistake, left something out, maybe then they could understand. But this is figure skating, and the answers are rarely simple.

"That's the way skating works," said Sale, trying to contain her emotions. "It's judged."

In a decision that immediately sparked yet another judging controversy, Russians Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze edged Sale and Pelletier of Canada by the minutest of margins Monday night to win the pairs gold.

"It was like somebody punched me in the stomach," Pelletier told NBC's "Today" show Tuesday morning after the Canadians stayed up all night giving interviews. "But at the same time, we can sit here and talk about it for weeks but it's not going to change the results."

The International Skating Union announced Tuesday an inquiry would be launched into the judging.

The ISU made a statement which read: "Following the reaction of the public and the media to the results of the pairs event at the Salt Lake Ice Center last night, and to respect public opinion, the ISU is doing an internal assessment to monitor if the ISU rules and procedures have been respected.

"Any further comment will be given when appropriate."

The ISU made its statement after a routine judges' meeting to look back at Monday's voting.

There might be changes in the sport because of the decision, longtime coach Frank Carroll said.

"This is the worst thing that's happened in a long time in figure skating," said Carroll, who was Linda Fratianne's coach in 1980, when Fratianne lost the gold medal to East Germany's Anett Potzch amid allegations of judges trading votes along political lines.

"People say figure skating shouldn't be in the Olympic Games because it's a play sport, it's not a real sport (and) - you can almost see where they're coming from ... when you watch that on TV," Carroll added. "The ISU has a lot of work to do as far as getting the judging system worked out."

A call to a spokeswoman for the International Skating Union on Tuesday morning was not immediately returned. NBC commentators were amazed at the decision. Sandra Bezic, a former Canadian pairs champion, even went so far as to say she was "embarrassed for our sport."

"How did that happen?" asked Scott Hamilton, the 1984 Olympic champion. "(They) won that program, there's not a doubt for anyone in the place, except for maybe a few judges.

"That will be debated forever."

(NBC is a partner in the joint venture that runs NBCSports.com.) "Without a doubt, I am ashamed for my sport," said the Canadian world champions' choreographer, Lori Nichol, who admittedly is not unbiased.

For the Russian coach, however, the issue was closed.

"For two years, we considered that Elena and Anton won, but it went to the other couple," said coach Tamara Moskvina, referring to recent losses by her top pair, including their loss to the Canadians at last spring's world championships in Vancouver, British Columbia.

"We didn't accuse the North American block, we just accepted it. So now it is our time."

Sale and Pelletier put on the kind of memorable performance that defines a career. And the Canadians did it even after Sale had the wind knocked out of her when she crashed into Sikharulidze during warmups.

Though she initially felt "paralyzed" by the crash, Sale and Pelletier skated with passionate abandon. Every move and detail of their "Love Story" program was flawless, including two huge throw jumps. Fans were chanting "Six! Six!" when it ended - begging the judges to award the Canadians a perfect score.

Pelletier was so overcome he dropped to his knees and kissed the ice, then leaned back and let out a scream as he pumped his fists.

"We didn't come here to win gold, we came here to do our best," Sale said. "We were on tonight, we really were. What else can you ask for?"

Especially considering the pressure they've been under. Sale and Pelletier had won nine competitions in a row, including the world championships last spring, and they gave Canada its best hope to win its first pairs gold since 1960.

They couldn't go anywhere without someone wishing them well - expectations that became more of a burden than an inspiration.

"The last six months were so tough," Pelletier said. "You go to the grocery store and it's, ?Bring back the gold.' You go to the hardware store and it's, ?Bring back the gold.' I'm just trying to buy a hammer!"

Family and friends tried to ease the couple's pain by serenading them with "O, Canada" when they arrived at Canada House in Salt Lake City early Tuesday.

Pelletier said: "When the marks came up, I am a human being, I was sad to come second.

"It is tough tonight. It is the toughest day of my life ... When I turn 50, I am sure I will look at the medal and say ?Well, it seems like it does not shine enough. It should be gold."'

But it will always be tinged with thoughts of what might have been.

Berezhnaya and Sikharulidze's program, to "Meditation," was strong but hardly perfect. Sikharulidze stepped out of a double axel, and they couldn't match the Canadians' emotion.

Yet they still collected seven 5.9s for artistry, with the Chinese and Polish judges favoring the Russians and making the difference, ensuring a Russian or Soviet pair has won every gold medal since 1964.

The Canadians got only four 5.9s for artistry.

Judges from Russia, China, France, Poland and Ukraine placed the Russian pair first.

Pelletier claimed: "We have lost because of the French judge."

The U.S., Canadian, German and Japanese judges awarded their top marks to the Canadians.

But Sikharulidze refused to apologize for the shiny golden disc hanging around his neck. He and Berezhnaya were silver medalists four years ago, and it's been anything but a smooth transition from second to first.

They withdrew from the 2000 world championships after Berezhnaya failed a drug test, which she said was caused by over-the-counter cold medicine. They were then suspended for three months by the International Skating Union and stripped of their European crown.

"Yeah, sure, because I have a gold medal," Sikharulidze shot back when someone asked if he and Berezhnaya had skated a winning program. "All competitions are decided by fate."

China's Shen Xue and Zhao Hongbo won the bronze.

American champions Kyoko Ina and John Zimmerman finished fifth in a performance Ina called "the best rush I have ever felt in my career."

Ina, who was ninth in the 1994 Games and fourth in Nagano in 1998 when she partnered with Jason Dungjen, leaped up like a schoolgirl with straight A's on her report card when she saw the couple's marks.

"I can walk away and say, ?Wow, that was terrific,"' she said.

That's a feeling Sale and Pelletier will never know.

"What we can't control, we can't control," he said. "That's the way it is."




Tuesday, February 12, 2002
 
Judges' scorecard

Associated Press

At Salt Lake City

The top two pairs, with how they were ranked in the long program by judges and their scores from the nine judges.


1, Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze, Russia, 1.0.
1   5.8   5.9   11.7
1   5.8   5.9   11.7
2   5.7   5.9   11.6
1   5.8   5.9   11.7
1   5.7   5.9   11.6
2   5.7   5.8   11.5
1   5.8   5.9   11.7
2   5.8   5.8   11.6
2   5.7   5.9   11.6

Fix


2, Jamie Sale and David Pelletier, Canada, 2.0.
2   5.8   5.8   11.6
2   5.9   5.8   11.7
1   5.8   5.9   11.7
2   5.8   5.8   11.6
2   5.8   5.8   11.6
1   5.9   5.9   11.8
2   5.8   5.8   11.6
1   5.9   5.9   11.8
1   5.8   5.9   11.7



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"For two years, we considered that Elena and Anton won, but it went to the other couple," said coach Tamara Moskvina, referring to recent losses by her top pair, including their loss to the Canadians at last spring's world championships in Vancouver, British Columbia.

The Canadians were spectacular at the worlds last year. Talk about poor winners! That Russian coach is a poor winner. And I've since read a few articles this morning, the Russians feel that the judges gave them the gold medal, therefore they are the winners, no controversy. I get the impression they feel it is not how they skated, it is how the judges felt they skated (and they are right.)

1 posted on 02/12/2002 12:05:56 PM PST by Utah Girl
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2 posted on 02/12/2002 12:08:09 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
In view of the massive corruption and bribery associated with the location of the games in Utah, why would we be surprised if the judging was similarly corrupt?
3 posted on 02/12/2002 12:09:56 PM PST by thucydides
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To: Utah Girl
This is the latest: Ken Lay and Enron are behind all of this thing. James Charbroiled issued this statement just minutes ago.
4 posted on 02/12/2002 12:14:35 PM PST by Puliko
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To: Utah Girl
France voting with Russia and China. What a shocker. </ sarcasm>
5 posted on 02/12/2002 12:17:15 PM PST by montag813
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To: Puliko
LOL!!!
6 posted on 02/12/2002 12:22:41 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
The ISU made a statement which read: "Following the reaction of the public and the media to the results of the pairs event at the Salt Lake Ice Center last night, and to respect public opinion, the ISU is doing an internal assessment to monitor if the ISU rules and procedures have been respected.

"Send the bedbug letter, Nikolai."

7 posted on 02/12/2002 12:23:59 PM PST by strela
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To: Utah Girl
French Candians should realize who their true friends are ... and they aren't the French.
8 posted on 02/12/2002 12:25:32 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: Utah Girl
I was totally shocked by it and that is not an easy thing to do to me.
9 posted on 02/12/2002 12:26:22 PM PST by riley1992
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To: thucydides
Fixed? Naah. Next you're going to tell me that half those dudes are gay.
10 posted on 02/12/2002 12:26:36 PM PST by Thebaddog
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To: montag813
Well, the Russians do make the point that the US and Canadian judges vote in a bloc also. I think it is a difference in perceptions, the Russians and most Europeans (including the former Eastern bloc countries) seem to favor the classical, traditional skating, while the Western judges favor a newer, somewhat more modern style.
11 posted on 02/12/2002 12:31:04 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: riley1992
Yup. If the Russians would have skated their long program, like they did their short program, they would have won the gold medal going away. They didn't, their program may have been a bit more artistic, but they had four errors, one of them a major two-footed landing by the Russian man.
12 posted on 02/12/2002 12:32:59 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Do like the gymnastics mob does and average the scores. If you do that, the Canadians have an average of 11.6778 while the Russians have an average of 11.6333. Case closed.
13 posted on 02/12/2002 12:35:00 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Utah Girl
David & Jamie executed one of the most artistic, romantic and yet playful programs my wife and I have watched in 20 years of viewing.

It was a remarkably flawless program as well.

The Russians were good but made errors and did not deserve first place.

The Canadians were classy, but were not defeated...THEY WAS ROBBED!

14 posted on 02/12/2002 12:35:44 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy
Yes, the Canadians were pure class last night. Jamie Sale was very upset initially, and I can't blame her. But during the interviews, etc., both were just total class in their comments. Unlike the Russian skaters and their coach, who are poor winners.
15 posted on 02/12/2002 12:37:04 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Sorta reminds me of the Electoral College which so many tout as fair.
16 posted on 02/12/2002 12:38:07 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: Utah Girl
I was just thinking this morning when I saw that the U.S. swept snowboarding: What kind of "sport" relies on subjective judging of talent? Officials in all sports make judgements, of course, but those are typically for rules interpretation or sub-aspects of the sport (umpiring baseball, for example). Here we have entire events subject to the whim of a bunch of yahoos from around the world. I'd take any medal with a grain of salt. I want to see real competition; give me a race.
17 posted on 02/12/2002 12:49:42 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Utah Girl
Total scores Canada 105.1, Russia 104.7.

Pretty obvious.

18 posted on 02/12/2002 1:02:55 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: Utah Girl
Maybe someone can help me out here. If you take their scores (first the technical marks and then artistic), and take off the highest and lowest of each, I come up with a net score of 81.5 for the Russians and 81.7 for the Canadians. So it's clear the Canadians won and there should have NOT been a "judgmental" call by any judge as to who should be ranked #1 or #2. Appreciate any comments on this.
19 posted on 02/12/2002 1:03:42 PM PST by nfldgirl
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To: Mean Maryjean
The scores aren't combined, the judges rank the skaters 1 or 2 or 3 or whatever, and that is what counts. The Russians received higher artistic marks than the Canadians did, and that was the difference last night.
20 posted on 02/12/2002 1:05:20 PM PST by Utah Girl
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