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Missing Danielle Parents Allegedly Swingers
Larry King Live ^ | Brenda & Damon Van Dam

Posted on 02/11/2002 5:06:42 PM PST by Petronski

Larry asked them about it just now on Larry King Live (2-11-2), and they refused to deny it.


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To: He Rides A White Horse
Ref Post 514. I heard a modern college-graduate girl express it best the other day. Another wife was expressing amazement that her daughter was talking about bisexuals. The modern college woman said, hey, there's nothing wrong with being comfortable about your sexuality.

These people have been totally given over to depravity, and abandoned by God. He has done it before, and He is doing it again.

541 posted on 02/12/2002 7:22:49 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: sneakypete
They brought people home from the bar and were having an orgy. The stranger didn't just break into their home, they invited him in. It's not just swingers, many single women are good at exposing their kids to whoever also by bringing a trail of men into their children's homes. If the couple had wanted to protect their kids, they could have orgied in motel rooms and left the kids with a grandmother.
542 posted on 02/12/2002 7:25:47 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"One action, molesting minors, is against the law. The other, promiscuity, is not."

Well, in this, you are, at least, partly right. The missing girl is seven, so she is a minor. But contributing factors also play a part in a crime. I believe there is a charge that can be brought in this case if they endangered the life of their child. And I am sure the cops are looking into this matter very critically. So we will see what develops.

543 posted on 02/12/2002 7:26:05 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: wimpycat
Secondly, I think you're being just as morally judgemental against the morally judgemental as the morally judgemental are against the morally questionable. Get it?

Yeah,I "get it",but you are wrong. You are going too far to try to place yourself in the "moderate middle". These people are creeps and control freaks to the point where MANY (not all!) of them would prefer a theocracy over a Republic.I've been dealing with these idiots all my life.

544 posted on 02/12/2002 7:27:06 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Do you allow service technicians in your house?"

It is an interesting mind that sees no difference in sexual deviates and service technicians.

545 posted on 02/12/2002 7:27:28 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: sneakypete
Statistically speaking, the chances of her being abducted by a friend or acquaintance of the family are exponentially greater than by a total stranger. The more friends and acquaintances, the more the stranger scenario likelihood goes down.
546 posted on 02/12/2002 7:28:07 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: He Rides A White Horse
"I won't be calling them normal anytime soon, however."

Neither does God. Do you remember a tv show in which one of the characters would get a laugh by saying, Here comes da judge, Here comes da judge?

547 posted on 02/12/2002 7:28:40 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: sneakypete
"Yeah,I did. This doesn't mean you understand where it comes from,though."

Sneaking thru neighbor's back doors?

548 posted on 02/12/2002 7:31:37 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
It has occurred to me more than once, reading this thread, that the morality expressed by some of these people is precisely the morality we saw in the Clinton White House. The harm those people did to this country is still being measured. The harm the van Dams have done to their family will also be costly, perhaps even for years down the line. The harm the libertines posting here might have done or might do--only they will know the stories, but one suspects its not quite all as rosy as is being painted.
549 posted on 02/12/2002 7:33:24 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: sneakypete
Yeah,I "get it",but you are wrong. You are going too far to try to place yourself in the "moderate middle". These people are creeps and control freaks to the point where MANY (not all!) of them would prefer a theocracy over a Republic.I've been dealing with these idiots all my life.

You're well on your way to getting banned for constantly personally attacking those who don't agree with you, so I'm telling you to cut it out right now. I'm not in the middle. The chances are statistically greater for the little girl to have been abducted and/or killed by her parents or a friend or an acquaintance than by a stranger, and if the parents and the people they allowed in their house just happened to be swingers..........

I'm trying to look at this objectively. You're too busy overcompensating and exposing your hatred of the religious to think objectively.

550 posted on 02/12/2002 7:34:13 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: Solson; Sneakypete
"? So goes your morality argument."

Sneakypete is totally cynical about the world. I am as well, but he outdoes even me. I sense something really messed up in his mind, almost evil. He is not a man you could turn your back on. Sneaky, you need help. I have been a correctional officer in a state pen. You make the right sounds to be an inmate.

551 posted on 02/12/2002 7:35:00 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: sneakypete
HorseHillary! You just WANT to blame the parents because it makes you feel superior to them. Let's take a wild chance and suppose for just one minute that it was a total stranger (like in the Polly Klass case) who abducted the girl,ok? Would you feel sorry for the greiving parents then? Or do they still deserve no sympathy for losing a child,merely because they liked to have sex outside of their marriage?

Please, sneakypete, never go into law enforcement!

Your posts have demonstrated that you hold women and girls in deep contempt. Thus, it is likely that on a subconscious level, or perhaps not subconscious, you would have the attitude, "she got what was coming to her."

Also, you, and a few others have demonstrated a remarkable ability to overlook obvious leads and discrepencies in a criminal investigation. So what if there were people in the house around the time of the kidnapping...what could they have to do with anything?????

The bar friends, the swingers, the sexual addicts are all the good and nice guys...you would probably go after the monogamous family up the street and harrass them. Your posts have indicated that it's the monogamous men and women that you do not trust and have contempt for.

I know that California is an extremely liberal state, but in many, many other states, if a child is hurt or killed during the course of parental pursuits...such as waking up and wandering into a crack party, and being thrown against the wall...the parents are as liable as the "guest" who threw the child.

552 posted on 02/12/2002 7:36:31 AM PST by Selara
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To: Selara
Only in Calif. where what Danielle's Mom and Dad did is "Normal" would they be free right now. Here in the Heartland, if Parents were out screwing around and having sex with anyone they could bring home from a bar, and endangering 3 children, they would be suspects and locked up and the kids would already be in foster homes. But, of course, where Lady Comics( I forget her name), can do their kids and nothing happens to them, what else can we expect??
553 posted on 02/12/2002 7:41:12 AM PST by mikemurphy111
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To: Don Myers
I don't know him so I won't make a personal judgement. that said, he is being hypocritical in his approach towards whatever he defines as his morality or values.

He screeches about those trying to impose a religious viewpoint on sex and marriage but when someone takes a logical extension to homosexual sex and NAMBLA type sex, he guffaws at the comparison.

The comparison isn't in the type of sex, it is in the imposition of "values" or morals.

Sounds to me like he's too busy hating organized religion to really define what his "values" are.

554 posted on 02/12/2002 7:42:53 AM PST by Solson
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To: golitely
Post 549. Clinton was a product of his times. He was so popular and is still popular because many people identified with him. He is a good ol' boy who made it to the big time. Many, many people admire him for his sexual "victories." It doesn't matter if he raped a thousand women.

Women have fallen from their place of honor where men believed they should protect them. Our culture has done that. Women have become competitors and "equals" rather than cherished and loved women. Rather than being true equals with man and helpmates, they have become something to be conquered.

Women have largely become mere sexual objects anyway, so why would raping them bother these men? Women have low self-esteem that they think they have to prostitute themselves in order to get the attention of these low-life men. Both men and women in our culture have sunk to the sewer level. It is a no-win scenario.

Sexual deviates and just messed-up-in-the-mind people won't admit they need help. Sometimes, they don't even know it.

555 posted on 02/12/2002 7:46:20 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Solson
Post 554. I have seen many people who need help. Such a poisoned view of mankind is not healthy. He doesn't have the help of religion to help him. Such a person has no hope. A person without hope will do anything.
556 posted on 02/12/2002 7:48:47 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: sneakypete
These people are creeps and control freaks to the point where MANY (not all!) of them would prefer a theocracy over a Republic.I've been dealing with these idiots all my life.

This threat is far overblown.

Personally, I don't want a theocracy......whose would it be? The Catholics? Presbyterian? Orthodox?........

I'm interesting that many of you who like to boast about your independent thinking do nothing but ape what the leftist press has to say on the matter.

They love to scare people with the 'theocracy' strawman, and it seems to have worked on you. Just think of it.......you've been brainwashed by the left.

The left uses the 'theocracy' strawman so it may justify banning Christians from the political arena........and why?

For the same reason every totalitarian goes after those of faith in the first wave. Because while everybody else slips into moral bankruptcy, they know that the Christians are going to call them on the inevitable abomonations they will be implementing. Because when everybody else is so concentrated on the 'self', and their own pleasures, gratifications, they don't even notice these facists coming. Because everybody else will be so paralysed by their inability to condemn anything. Not so with us, and they hate us for that quality.

You have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.

557 posted on 02/12/2002 7:49:35 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: mikemurphy111
I can't believe they still have their other kids.
558 posted on 02/12/2002 7:49:59 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: jocon307
You're right, I meant no sign of murder. Guess I was being optimistic that the little girl is ok. As the police often say, if little ones aren't found within 24-48 hours, they're usually found dead if found at all. There is something definately foul in the air and it seems to be all around her parents.
559 posted on 02/12/2002 8:04:40 AM PST by Blackdakota
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To: He Rides A White Horse
"Give me a break with you moral relativity."

That's the kind of response someone puts up when their argument has fallen on its face.

560 posted on 02/12/2002 8:05:42 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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