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To: Francohio
Um, “This is a prick (small thing) because between nations sword and fire divide”?

Cabbage crates over the briny? Sorry, don't understand your lingo - I only perpetrate being educated. = )

I think that Kosovo is also legitimately part of Serbia, and that the borders that we have in place today should remain – I also realize that this is going to necessitate a sea change in both Pristina and Belgrade as to how to treat ethnic minorities in one’s midst. I have hopes that this can be done, and have historical precedents to base those hopes upon – same same with Macedonia and Southern Serbia, Greater Albania is a chimera, and is as viable as any other Greater whatever.

I don’t disagree with your premise that the Kosovar Albanians, when given the opportunity, turned into Nationalist thugs, but turning Kosovo back over to a different set of Nationalist thugs isn’t the answer, and right now the 40,000 troops who wield the true political power out the end of their gun barrels don’t subscribe to a Nationalist ideology. Hopefully, their presence will give the residents the opportunity to explore more rational forms of politics than the current failed ethnic based standard, and the moderates will prove that pragmatism is more attractive than hatred, and crimes will be considered crimes, regardless of the ethnicity of the victims.

The counterpoint to your Mexican analogy is that we don’t treat Mexican illegals as punching bags, and their offspring are given the opportunity of integrating into our society rather than continuing to be alienated from it – strangely, those that I know don’t seem the least interested in driving me out, nor returning California to Mexico, and I would be a ‘race traitor’ before I turned upon the people who I share common values with instead of a common skin color. (I’m for enforcement of existing immigration policy, btw, so don’t anybody get any stupid ideas.)

86 posted on 02/15/2002 3:50:59 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
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The counterpoint to your Mexican analogy is that we don’t treat Mexican illegals as punching bags, and their offspring are given the opportunity of integrating into our society rather than continuing to be alienated from it – strangely, those that I know don’t seem the least interested in driving me out, nor returning California to Mexico, and I would be a ‘race traitor’ before I turned upon the people who I share common values with instead of a common skin color. (I’m for enforcement of existing immigration policy, btw, so don’t anybody get any stupid ideas.)

Well, Hoplite, thanks for letting my analogy off the hook so gracefully. And yes, that is pretty much what happened when the Serbs came back to town. Unlike our resident Mexicans, however, the Albanians got in a lot of damage in their brief legal rule over Kosovo during the days of autonomy. Given this area's location on the edge of Christendom, and the woeful history of the Ottoman Empire's treatment of the Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes, it was not a good idea for the Albanians, in their new police uniforms, to burn churches, wreck monasteries, rape nuns, and murder priests.( I know I know, Mother Teresa was an Albanian, Islam is religion of peace and love, and of course incredible tolerance, etc. ad nauseam)

What the hell is wrong with having most of these incredibly fast-breeding brigands back living in Albania? Many Albanians have lived in Kosovo "forever," but just as many have not. Rather than spend the money shooting them, which is what it is coming to, why not spend it on developing Albania? This notion of the Greater Albania, which our tax dollars are encouraging,is sheer idiocy. All our investment is getting for us is the return of the Russians as the dominant regional power. When you see them and the Bulgarians in Macedonia, it will be all over for the Albanians, and unfortunately a lot of others.

In regard to "integrating offspring," how are people of the Christian West supposed to integrate with heavily armed, dope-dealing polygamists on jihad? This integration stuff cuts both ways.

92 posted on 02/15/2002 9:03:12 PM PST by Francohio
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