I still appreciate your post in reply #42.
With that said, it's time to come to grips with political reality. there were tons of linkages early on in the slickmeisters admin of shady conections. the dims went berserk, stayed berserk until the bitter end, simply refused to ever make any sort of connection.
Well, it's starting to happen again, and you want to know why? I'll tell ya. It's because 'top leadership" is picked by the behind the scenes fatcats in the parties, grassroots has little to do with it except as truckloads of free sucker money. And "top leadership" in the two parties are almost universally more global corporate pirates than anything else, D's or R's. That's who gets elected every 2 and 4 years, that's why we have scandal after scandal after scandal, with none of them ever getting "really" solved or fixed, and no new ones prevented-because they are the ones investigating. Fox guarding the henhouse, in perpetutity, you'll keep losing hens..
9-11 was chickens coming home to roost for the globalist profits at any cost smooth operator pirates. They traded their silver for national security. D's and R's. Sub is pointing out it's both. Not just one or the other, both, and backing it up post after post with references. And we are starting to see the clues, exactly like we started seeing clues under klintgoon.
There's linkages to the same saudi big money that goes to support islamic terrs. There's evidence of high level investigations being stymied-both past administration and this one. Honest cops getting told to stand down. They ignored reality and it hit us in the face 9-11. And now all the politicians are scrambling to distance themselves, but it won't work.
Enron is another example, global crossing is another, and there's at least a half a dozen more soon to follow, and all of them will have linkages top high level D's and R's. Both
That's the real pattern it's BOTH, that's the one never changing common denominator, and the sooner people will actually be adult and admit it, instead of claiming to be adults, the sooner the country will be better off.
Denial is not a river in egypt. The dems are a disgrace for what they did for 8 years, deny, deny, deny. It gets criticised and laughed at here, deservedly so, because they were wrong about it, their top level people are crooks, it's obvious. So now is the time to stay on a roll, and honestly look at ALL politicians and these global corporate pirates, and forget about the party labels. Do that, events become clearer, and you aren't stuck trying to defend the indefensible, like the dems got stuck. Spook daddy had 90% "war" approval early on, what happened to him again?
If you value your party, don't make the same mistakes they did, and if anyone values the nation over their party, well, all it takes is an open unbiased mind to look at the data, just LOOK at it. it's not all that hard to do, either. Where there's smoke there's fire usually, good rule of thumb in scandals. Not all the time, but high 90's percentile is about right.
I started my political life as a goldwater republican, from before I could vote, and was glad to work for someone honest, and who had honest values and wasn't tied to crooks, even tangentially. He got shafted by the RINOS and the nixon goons, sabotaged, and lost. there's another lesson. Those kinda folks hijacked the party, and continue to own it, they stole it from the grassroots conservatives.
Well,. the party has changed, quite a bit, there are few if any of those sorts of real conservatives in the republican party at leadership levels, and here's a clue, gw sure ain't one either, I don't care how many disastrous bungles his administration accepts as victories, and 9-11 was a complete utter disaster, the mother of all bungles, and it's being cheered on like some sort of victory. It's disgusting.. If 9-11 had happened under clinton (or gore) the cries for impeachment would be overwhelming on this forum, and you know it, everyone here knows it. Anyone really want to deny that? That if 9-11, something that horrible, had happened under one of the dims, this forum would be a completely different experience right now? Anyone? that there wouldn't be cries to stage mass freeps in front of the whitehouse demanding his ouster and impeachment, if it was a Capital D instead of R there, with everything else the same?
Strange just because the fact of a R in the top spot, with everything else equal that it's somehow "wrong' to notice what a complete failure in leadership and command and control it was.
9-11 wasn't a 'success' or anything to be cheered on or rewarded, even though that's exactly what's happening, mainly from people who will not, they simply refuse to put nation OVER political party.. They didn't learn the lesson from klintgoon, how destructive that is, to reward incompetence or worse, to deny the linkages, to ridicule the messengers who tried to bring it out, and who are now trying hard and going out of their way to create false-history and illusional revisionism.
Beware, it WILL backfire if it continues. The RINOS at the top love this, it's how they stay in control of the republican party, it's the same thing the past klintgoon admin did, play their partisan support for suckers.
After goldwater got shafted, how many years did this nation suffer, what untold damage was done? Is this utter...stupidity.... to be rewarded forever? Just because top level RINOS want to stay in power and keep looting? I expect it of the dims, that party is too far gone anymore, the republican party has a chance, but they got ONE chance to wake up and clean house, starting at the top and working their way down, or lose big in the years ahead.
Yep, right now the "numbers" look good, so what? Really, so what? I'll make my spook daddy war numbers reference one more time. Think back.
Learn from history or repeat it.